A question I ask anyone discussing migration is "if we reduce it to the tens of thousands' and still have loads of jobs unfilled what is your suggestion then?'
People who are accepting of immigrants always have a decent discussion about it as happens in this group.
Those who are anti immigration are, on the whole, totally unable to have any kind of conversation on it.
The simple truth is that either the rich western world increases retirement ages and 'forces' people to do jobs they really do not want to do or are not really capable of doing or we have to have immigration. Unless we all have lots more kids soon then this will only ever get worse - until and unless AI takes over lots of jobs. which it will............................ lots and lots of jobs and then the problem turns to something very different.
I think FPTP maybe dampens alot of that with alot of peole seeing voting for anyone apart from the two main parties as a wasted vote. The european elections next week maybe a better indicator to how people in Europe are feeling about migration currently.
People in the UK? Well tories have been promising "ten of thousands" for at least a decade so I guess with Starmers promises this week they are happy to give labour a go.