US Presidential Election 2016

[eFestivals]

6 minutes ago, ThomThomDrum said:

They should have went for Sanders. The Democrats had the perfect opportunity to do so but they were blinded by their arrogance in effectively thinking Hilary would walk it.

If people were truly sick of the established politics he would have been the perfect candidate to go up against Turnip, even if he is the type of tree hugging, sandle wearing, smelly socialist that Americans traditionally fear

It still perplexes me how anyone from a minority group or any woman in that country voted for Trump. C'est la vie

I think Bernie would have suffered similar problems as Clinton did, tho for different reasons - such as him being regarded (in usa terms, anyway) as 'a socialist'. 

I think claims of an easy victory for him is no less blind to the whole circumstances as Hillary blaming emails or whatever.

[ThomThomDrum]

39 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

I think claims of an easy victory for him is no less blind to the whole circumstances as Hillary blaming emails or whatever.

I dont think it would have been easy, but he would potentially have been able to tap into those disenfranchised with the status quo with a lot of the caucus results showing that (although of course thats simply a Democrat litmus test).  It would have been interesting to see how the lower class republicans would have reacted to his message had he been on the ticket.

When push comes to shove the US underclasses are a lot more socialist then they may like to admit and the recent farce with Trumpcare showed such. Once they all realised that the repeal and replace of dirty old Obamacare meant they were going to get fucked over all of a sudden Obamacare is a good thing and Republican politicians feared for their seats as their voters let them know such. 

[eFestivals]

6 minutes ago, ThomThomDrum said:

I dont think it would have been easy, but he would potentially have been able to tap into those disenfranchised with the status quo with a lot of the caucus results showing that (although of course thats simply a Democrat litmus test).  It would have been interesting to see how the lower class republicans would have reacted to his message had he been on the ticket.

When push comes to shove the US underclasses are a lot more socialist then they may like to admit and the recent farce with Trumpcare showed such. Once they all realised that the repeal and replace of dirty old Obamacare meant they were going to get fucked over all of a sudden Obamacare is a good thing and Republican politicians feared for their seats as their voters let them know such. 

I agree that he'd have got some votes that Hillary didn't, but I reckon he'd also have lost some that she'd have got - so i don't think the outcome is any more certain.

And those rust belt redneck types, while unionised, are much more brexit-like in political outlook than they are socialist.