DISCRIMINATION

[themuel]

An act designed to help preserve at least one of the languages of the of the indigenous (well, almost) peoples of Britain; hardly stupid.

As for discrimination - I reckon I've been discriminated all my life for being Welsh. Most English people, certainly Middle-class English people, expect everybody to behave like them, however, they do make allowances (bless) for those who are clearly foreign and, by implication, different. I'm foreign, "Welsh" even mean foreign, and I do not have the same values as the English, but even in the most politically-correct, plural and multi-cultural of workplaces this just is not acknowledged and I find I must either act English (with their pointless fake-humility, "moderation" and and tight-lipped reserve) or suffer.

That said, I'm not aware of any such prejudices at Glastonbury

[jimmyk83]

I dont know, i think im backing the 'piss and biscuits' comment as most discriminatory on this thread.

[Spindles]

Yay, welsh nationalism. Can I be a cornish seperatist?

I work for a retailer. In Wales we have to make all our signs in welsh language, with english on the back. In order for the majority of people to read the signs they have to walk to the back of the store and turn around. Pandering to a vocal minority has led to some ridiculous situations.

No one is discriminating against you to buy tickets. Absolute, utter nonsense. Balls. Rubbish.

Thanks for the slag off of the english though, nice to see some good old fashioned small minded clichés.

[Morse Code]

Is it because the Welsh are so miserable?

[bass1999]

*yawn* is this thread still going. get out and enjoy the sunshine people.

[James Bolivar]

This is the most discriminatory thing written on this thread, and that fact definitely lessens the impact of what you are saying.

[muddyslingbax]

Why is it when it comes to buying tickets and getting served at the bars etc are the Welsh always discriminated against?

[feral chile]

In what way? On the one hand. it isn't really possible to effectively and systemically discriminate against a hegemony - so if I vent my frustration at the English middle-classes it has absolutely no effect. On the other hand, I couldn't give a toss.

[Alf Tupper]

I spent the first seven years from birth in South Wales and moved over the Severn Bridge at an early age and was torn too shreds for ALL of childhood.

And then came a great blend of rugby, boxing, drinking and beefing out in equal measure, at 18 getting around to those people who had the mouth at school while they were sat in pubs crying like babies was a grattifying experince at the time, pretty daft looking back on how revenge was so satisfying but that was then, 20 year ago.

When i read the word discrimination anywhere and how sensitive people can be it does raise a smile, oh and the OP is clearly on a wind up BTW.

Llanbobl RFC, the finest 15 in Wales Mr Rugger Bugger!

Edited April 23, 2011 by Alf Tupper

[Spindles]

Alf, you aren't my cousin Mark are you? You sound just like him.

[James Bolivar]

What do you mean, 'act English'? I didn't know that as a Welsh person there are rules to how I should be acting. I thought I could just be myself.

Please advise me on how not to betray my country by acting out of national character.

[feral chile]

I didn't write "act English" in the post you quoted.

That said, I'm not telling you to act in any way whatsoever, what I mentioned earlier was my own experiences of working in England where English, middle-class, values rule. So, as a Welshman, with the typical Welsh love of the grand-statement, the dramatic, the occasional boast, find myself having to behave differently. Everybody I grew up with loves to argue, but the English see this as a character flaw, not a character trait. Similarly, I am wholly immoderate, not an uncommon characteristic among the children of the valleys, but something frowned upon in the leafy suburbs.

I am not suggesting that the English middle-classes behave differently, but I would like to be me. Strangely enough, many organizations have training courses in working with people from obviously different cultures, but this is not extended to the Welsh; perhaps because we look English.

[feral chile]

Is it because the Welsh are so miserable?

[Spindles]

My mother is welsh. She is argumentative and full of shit also. Oh, and she is frequently miserable, I believe.

I blame Wales for her.

[Morse Code]

Are they miserable because they're outside Wales?

[feral chile]

Oh no, I find them to be more miserable when at home!

[Morse Code]

What part of Wales do you have experience of then?

Maybe they just seem more miserable when you're around.

[feral chile]

South and mid-Wales mainly. I find the one's in the nice bit up north are generally a bit happier but I always figured that's just because they live in the nice bit!

Hmmm - that's a good point. I've discovered quite a lot of English folk are miserable too when I'm around

[Alf Tupper]

Alf, you aren't my cousin Mark are you? You sound just like him.

[grumpyhack]

That's a lot of Wales to cover - on a serious note, there are some parts of South Wales that would depress me if I lived there - lots of unemployment and poverty.

I'm lucky that I like where I live, and most of the people around seem to be happy and friendly.