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Calling hardcore Tom Waits Fans


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I've just discovered Tom Waits. A friend of mine gave me a copy of his Glitter & Doom Live CD and i think it's brilliant. I got my hands on the 3-CD set he recently brought out too, which is also great.

Which of his other studio albums should i get? (keeping in mind i can't afford to buy 8 albums!)

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Closing Time is probably the most accessible of his classics (and its his first album). Id start with that.

The Heart of Saturday Night. Great album to kick back and relax, good dinner music too.

Rain Dogs is considered his best work by some (although not by me)

Orphans: Brawlers, Bawlers & Bastards is an absolute masterpiece. You need to dive in and get this asap. Triple album though so its pricey.

Make Closing Time your first stop. You should pick it up very cheap. His reputation as the Rembrandt of pop is not unjustified. The man is incredible.

Although I still didnt go see him when he came here, on the Glitter and Doom tour. Gutted too but 130 euros for a ticket is too rich for my blood.

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There's so many to choose from!

The early ones like Closing Time, The Heart of Saturday Night and Small Change are classics if you like the old piano ballady type stuff. Personally though I think Mule Variations and Bone Machine are brilliant and pretty varied. Or you could always start with a compliation like Used Songs or Asylum Years... enjoy!

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partly, it's the guitar playing that I love on Rain Dogs...

Marc Ribot is fantastic, and Keiths playing is great too

I remember hearing an interview with Tom about what it was like working with Keith, and he said something like "we just let him play. There was something going on...... I'm not sure what, but there was something" :P

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Sod money, just buy all his records. There is something incredible on every one. An absolute genius.

Rain Dogs was my entry to his entrancing and creepy world. Still think that overall, it's the most balanced and accessible of his "later" records. Though Cemetary Polka is still scary enough to frighten most people I play it to!

I personally find Swordfishtrombones inconsistent, but nevertheless fascinating and contains a few of his best songs. I actually prefer Franks Wild Years to "Swordfishtrombones. It's pretty theatrical and carnival, but his singing on it is wonderful, if Mr Waits voice can ever be called that! Also, Innocent When You Dream, Way Down in the Hole, I'll Be Gone and Cold, Cold Ground are among his very best.

Mule Variations is the one that I keep coming back to. It's quite sprawling, shot through with country influences but is one of the best examples of his pure songwriting. Hold On and Take it with Me especially.

Alice is often overlooked. Very smoky and jazzy, a real combination of his earlier work with his more Brechtian tendancies. An absolutely beautiful record.

Bone Machine is wonderful but quite abrasive and angular. Lots of fascinating percussion. Scary too. Of all his albums, probably the one thats most of a grower.

His latest, Real Gone is similar, but has softer moments (Though they're usually quite creepy and dark). Anyone who is a fan of his "growl and sawdust" voice will find a lot of joy here.

Of his earlier stuff, Closing Time has already been mentioned. I'm a big fan of The Heart of Saturday night: very different and lounge-jazz but you can see there's something quirky going on underneath. But go towards his middle period, Heartattack and Vine and Blue Valentine. Both tremendous albums. Very different to both his early and later stuff. If the more weird stuff freaks you out too much, these two are a great place to start.

One of the greatest of all time. I pretty much love him!

Can we get him to play at Glastonbury? PLEASE?!!!!

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Closing Time is probably the most accessible of his classics (and its his first album). Id start with that.

The Heart of Saturday Night. Great album to kick back and relax, good dinner music too.

Rain Dogs is considered his best work by some (although not by me)

Orphans: Brawlers, Bawlers & Bastards is an absolute masterpiece. You need to dive in and get this asap. Triple album though so its pricey.

Make Closing Time your first stop. You should pick it up very cheap. His reputation as the Rembrandt of pop is not unjustified. The man is incredible.

Although I still didnt go see him when he came here, on the Glitter and Doom tour. Gutted too but 130 euros for a ticket is too rich for my blood.

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I'm kinda in the same situation as you are at this very moment!

I bought Closing Time about 2 years ago, and I really enjoyed it. I then bought Rain Dogs, and never really got into it at the time, and my new found passion subsided.

Then 3 weeks ago, something "happened" and I suddenly had the urge to listen to Rain Dogs again and I loved it.

I then went and bought Mule Variations and was JUST listening to it for the very first time the second I saw this thread title (creepy, huh!!!!). It's excellent so far, I really love it.

I too have ordered the Orphans boxset and I'm really looking forward to getting that.

How is Glitter & Doom? I meant to buy it, but as I said, I was still a bit wary, and at the time there were about 5 other CDs out the same week I wanted and I really couldn't afford to get them all!!!

So, I would recommend Mule Variations first, I think. It's "Waits"-y but not as unaccessible as I felt Rain Dogs to be the first time I heard it! I wouldn't recommend Closing Time; it's a fantastic album, but I don't feel its a good place to start if you've bought 1 of his more recent albums first.

I'll be reading this thread for tips too! Thanks all :P

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Nighthawks At The Diner is my personal favourite Tom Waits album. It was recorded in 1975 live in a studio over a couple of nights with an audience and a jazz quartet backing band. It's really intimate, dark and funny. Just did a quick look on Amazon and they have most of his albums for £3-4.98. Happy listening :P

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without a doubt for me its got to night hawks at the diner. its possibly the live album of all time for me. awesome music stories and humour. then out would have to be closing time. I love tom waits but don't enjoy his surreal stuff as much. im gutted I didn't get to see him on tour last year.a glasto appearance would be unbelievable.

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