Morrissey?

[ivan]

Quite a lot of people think that. I reckon it depends on upbringing and social background. Morrissey's lyrics really speak to me personally because i'm from a lower working class environment in a horrible industrial town that's infested with smackheads. I can't relate to quite a lot of American artists because of the culture difference over there. Having said that, there are loads of exceptions. The great Bruce Springsteen is one. It all depends on if the music "grabs" you.

[sifi]

I hope he's amazing but i just can't imagine him doing a big festival gig with the type of sound he has.

[sifi]

I reckon it depends on upbringing and social background.

Edited February 5, 2010 by sifimaster

[ivan]

Interesting. Are you suggesting that I don't like his lyrics because I've no knowledge or understanding of what it's like to lower class, or live in deprived areas?

I lived in Hull, for crying out loud!

[BonnetBird]

I'm think I'm going to agree with Sifi here.

I like both The Smiths and Muse, and am a casual Morrissey listener.

But I've never really made the connection, musically. Its just not that obvious to me.

I can possibly see a connection (maybe) with the "teenage angst" on some of the earlier Muse records, but surely that's a common theme for many younger bands?

It doesn't mean they were directly influenced by The Smiths.

To me, it's like saying The Sundays were influenced by Queen

[sifi]

I'm think I'm going to agree with Sifi here.

[Wanderlei]

Will have to agree to disagree on this one because i think Muse, particularly the way the lead singer uses his voice, are very influenced by Morrissey and The Smiths.

Interesting. Are you suggesting that I don't like his lyrics because I've no knowledge or understanding of what it's like to lower class, or live in deprived areas?

I lived in Hull, for crying out loud

Edited February 5, 2010 by Wanderlei

[sifi]

No, i'm not saying that. What i'm saying is you need a very unique perspective to understand where his lyrics are coming from, both mentally and socially.

[Wanderlei]

It's strange because that's why i like Morrissey's lyrics. He tackles risque subjects and sings with his heart. Of course, i love Dylan too.

[Wanderlei]

oh come on.. they're not that obscure.

I totally get why many people relate to him so strongly, but there's not much that is particularly unusual. Not compared to so much that is 'out there'

Edited February 5, 2010 by Wanderlei

[sifi]

It's strange because that's why i like Morrissey's lyrics. He tackles risque subjects and sings with his heart. Of course, i love Dylan too.

[alframsey]

I'd be delighted if this happened, so happy. Not sure how likely though...

[whatmidlifecrisis?]

does he ever enjoy his shows..

he seems to use any excuse not to play..

he's a prima-donna

[VCK]

Morrissey is actually a Millwall supporter. Why? He's not from East London. His family don't support them. And obviously he's not a glory hunter ( ). But because - and this is true - their connection with hooliganism and Moz's fascination with hooligan culture!

Best reason to support a football team ever?

LOL. Just listen to Bellamy's and Morrissey's voices. Bellamy is blatantly influenced by Mozza. If anything, Bellamy's voice is more "whiny", as you would say.

Edited February 5, 2010 by VCK

[dunc55]

Just putting him out there? Anyone reckon there's any chance, at all?

[stuartbert two hats]

he was horrible before Muse in '04. only played 40 minutes. I post this, as I see that you specifically recommend he play before Muse in the sunset slot on saturday in another thread.

perhaps you didn't realize this had been done before w/ disastrous results. Muse fans in position, slagging off Morrissey beforehand, etc...

can't see Morrissey ever at Glasto again.

[srvman]

I always though Matt Bellamy tried to sound like Thom Yorke...

[ivan]

Morrissey is actually a Millwall supporter. Why? He's not from East London. His family don't support them. And obviously he's not a glory hunter ( ). But because - and this is true - their connection with hooliganism and Moz's fascination with hooligan culture!

Best reason to support a football team ever?

I am sure Moz hates all sports , going back to the days at school when he was forced to participate

as documented in Rusholme Ruffians !

[ivan]

I thought he was fantastic that year myself. His own songs and his Smiths numbers were all brilliant and his voice was on top form. One of my best gigs of the weekend. I wasn't too near the front, so I wasn't near any aggro Muse fans.

That's the thing with the Pyramid stage, the crowd is so large, you can have loads of different vibes in different places.

[Wanderlei]

But I can't help but think your passion is blinding you on this Muse thing. I seriously can't see it.

[ivan]

Well, listen to You've Got Everything Now and Plug In Baby and tell me Bellamy isn't influenced by the way Mozza uses his voice.