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[2/Z]

Alcohol is not a drug. It's a drink!!!

Surprised no one has posted this already

[spliffboy]

Alcohol is not a drug. It's a drink!!!

Surprised no one has posted this already

Edited November 20, 2009 by spliffboy

[amfy]

It's all semantics though really. Yes of course alcohol is a drug but if one of your mates asks whether you've got any drugs, they aren't wondering whether you've got a spare can of stella, or even a Red Bull. (See - caffeine - theres another one! Oh yes and paracetemol - far more deadly than heroin!)

Everyone knows what we mean when we say drugs & it strikes me as odd that the very same people who have a very clear shared understanding of what they mean by "drugs", also feel the need to come up with the "alcohol is a drug" thing at every given opportunity.

It's is all part of the general drugs debate on heirachy of harms, but i find it a bit tedious when it's trotted out here. Those arguments are for people who don't understand anything about illegal drugs and think they're better than you because they only drink alcohol and would never touch weed or coke or mdma or whatever. I don't think those people are in here.

[MissB]

It's all semantics though really. Yes of course alcohol is a drug but if one of your mates asks whether you've got any drugs, they aren't wondering whether you've got a spare can of stella, or even a Red Bull. (See - caffeine - theres another one! Oh yes and paracetemol - far more deadly than heroin!)

Everyone knows what we mean when we say drugs & it strikes me as odd that the very same people who have a very clear shared understanding of what they mean by "drugs", also feel the need to come up with the "alcohol is a drug" thing at every given opportunity.

It's is all part of the general drugs debate on heirachy of harms, but i find it a bit tedious when it's trotted out here. Those arguments are for people who don't understand anything about illegal drugs and think they're better than you because they only drink alcohol and would never touch weed or coke or mdma or whatever. I don't think those people are in here.

[denwyn]

Maybe they could use them to pick out the stupid sods with flags,before they get to the stages

[popcornmaster]

Alcohol is not a drug. It's a drink!!!

Surprised no one has posted this already

[loosechange]

Yes it's a drug, but nowhere near as dangerous as cake

[popcornmaster]

You can puke yourself to death on that stuff — one girl threw up her own pelvis-bone… what a f**king disgrace.

[Insomaniac]

Why has no-one got this reference?

Yes it's a drug, but nowhere near as dangerous as cake

[eFestivals]

Everyone knows what we mean when we say drugs & it strikes me as odd that the very same people who have a very clear shared understanding of what they mean by "drugs", also feel the need to come up with the "alcohol is a drug" thing at every given opportunity.

It's not odd.

There can only ever be sensible opinions about 'drugs' if all drugs including alcohol and tobacco are a part of the consideration. People wanting to consider them as something different leads to the idea that those legal drugs are somehow better for you (when they're not), and everything that comes from that.

In another thread on this boards, a poster and I have both said we got sacked from our jobs many years ago purely as a result of us having attended Glastonbury Festival - because (as a part of the reasoning) we were drugged up hippies who couldn't be relied upon simply because of that perception of drugs and drug takers.

Can you imagine someone being sacked cos they went to the pub the previous evening? Me neither. Yet it's an identical thing.

I made that "alcohol is a drug too" post to try and wise the poster up I was responding to that his comment that he doesn't take drugs is simply incorrect.

[sifi]

Of course alcohol is a drug. And an arabic one at that. Nicotine is a drug too. Both are much more addictive and dangerous than cannabis.

Graph of Dangerous Drugs

[ivan]

I couldn't have put it better myself, so I won't.

[loosechange]

Can you imagine someone being sacked cos they went to the pub the previous evening?

[ivan]

How about this perspective from moi

Months since taken anything that may be classed as illegal - Quite a few , will not really be bothered for some until next summer

Hours since last had alcohol - 16 , and christ I fancy a drink now , cannot wait to get home and have a

beer , oh and out Sat night for a curry so beer and lager and wine , oooh got White Lies on Sunday so will have a beer for that , and Kasabian on Mon, not driving so few beers for that , Christmas is coming up so beer , lager , wine , champers , vodka

So which is the problem for me then ?

[2/Z]

Why has no-one got this reference?

Yes it's a drug, but nowhere near as dangerous as cake

[Insomaniac]

So which is the problem for me then ?

[podge52]

Glasto is my drug......Very addictive. I'd beg, borrow or steal to go...i'd even resort to prostitution,but not the man love kind of prostitution. Even Glasto aint worth selling my ass for..... no sireee

[eFestivals]

How about sacked and jailed for six months?

I'm not talking about use of intoxicants impacting directly onto work.

[amfy]

It's not odd.

There can only ever be sensible opinions about 'drugs' if all drugs including alcohol and tobacco are a part of the consideration. People wanting to consider them as something different leads to the idea that those legal drugs are somehow better for you (when they're not), and everything that comes from that.

In another thread on this boards, a poster and I have both said we got sacked from our jobs many years ago purely as a result of us having attended Glastonbury Festival - because (as a part of the reasoning) we were drugged up hippies who couldn't be relied upon simply because of that perception of drugs and drug takers.

Can you imagine someone being sacked cos they went to the pub the previous evening? Me neither. Yet it's an identical thing.

I made that "alcohol is a drug too" post to try and wise the poster up I was responding to that his comment that he doesn't take drugs is simply incorrect.

[eFestivals]

I'm amazed at the extent to which your response completely misses the point of mine!

As yours did mine.

I made that first post. It had the point I meant for it, as following posts make clear. My answer to you was simply an explanation for the why, which you had queried.

All I'm trying to say is that I think people here have got it

society at large certainly hasn't. Why do you think that society at large isn't reflected in users of this forum?

If it all bothers you so much that you'd like it to go away then the easiest way to achieve that is to not post and perhaps drag it out.

Edited November 20, 2009 by eFestivals

[markeee]

I've never noticed the cameras at Glastonbury, but then again I've never really been looking for them

does anyone know how many there are in total?