sifi Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Macca without Lennon, kinda like Wise without Morcombe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 who knows... it's not as if Paul isn't highly regarded by millions of fans, is it? start a thread on it as highly? i think not. he couldn't even sell out hampden in the summer people don't talk about paul in the same way they do john. and i don't believe it's cos of musical superiority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 not enjoying todays lennon w*nkfest. wish he was still alive, then we could focus on better musicians. Terrible fishing. perspective is a good thing #9 dream, 'the most beautiful song ever written? f**k off! Who said it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Who said it was? okay, one of, mr pedant and not really, i got me some catch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 christ, it's not that hard to get. being dead increases ones popularity and status. people are talking as if lennon was the greatest songwriter to walk the earth. had mccartney been shot and not lennon, then roles would be reversed. pretty simple really. i try to judge music on the music, not the mortality of the performer. It's all subjective but feel free to list who you think were better songwriters than John Lennon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 people don't talk about paul in the same way they do john. and i don't believe it's cos of musical superiority. It's because of pish like the Frog Song and Mull of Kintyre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 It's all subjective but feel free to list who you think were better songwriters than John Lennon... paul mccartney elton john david bowie jon anderson joanna newsom rufus wainwright lets take rufus wainwright for example. would you say he's at least on a par with jeff buckley? yet who is plaudited more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 It's because of pish like the Frog Song and Mull of Kintyre. i'd like to have seen lennon not make pish in the 80's and 90's. is messi all of a sudden not as good cos he has a shite world cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard Box City Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 lets take rufus wainwright for example. would you say he's at least on a par with jeff buckley? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 No. so death plays no part in peoples perceptions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 paul mccartney elton john david bowie jon anderson joanna newsom rufus wainwright lets take rufus wainwright for example. would you say he's at least on a par with jeff buckley? yet who is plaudited more? Action failed: You have reached your quota of negative votes for the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard Box City Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 so death plays no part in peoples perceptions? No, Rufus Wainwright isn't as good as Jeff Buckley, living or dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 No, Rufus Wainwright isn't as good as Jeff Buckley, living or dead. which singer songwriter from the 90's/00's is better than jeff buckley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 which singer songwriter from the 90's/00's is better than jeff buckley? Damon Albarn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Define 'singer/songwriter' ... one who writes songs, then sings them. i'm not talking james blunt/james morrison type. damon albarn would fit, like kowalski said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big joe Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 It's because of pish like the Frog Song and Mull of Kintyre. I thought we established The Frog Song was great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 John was always the more popular of the two. The reason there isn't a day to remember him, or anyone still alive, is because... they're still alive!... and still doing things which keep them in the news. Anniversarys, deaths or births usually, are all there is for dead people... that's how it works point.....missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big joe Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 which singer songwriter from the 90's/00's is better than jeff buckley? Oh boy, this is an easy one. Noel Gallagher - obviously. Jarvis Cocker Damon Albarn Paul McCartney - yes, still. Paul Weller James Skelley Beck About a million others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Do we have to have shite like Noel Gallagher and Rufus Wainwright clogging up a thread about The Beatles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Do we have to have shite like Noel Gallagher and Rufus Wainwright clogging up a thread about The Beatles? better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard Box City Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Damon Albarn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 It's all subjective but feel free to list who you think were better songwriters than John Lennon... elton john jon anderson joanna newsom rufus wainwright are you pissed? I think the answer has to be yes. Maybe swap "pissed" with "clinically insane". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I think the answer has to be yes. Maybe swap "pissed" with "clinically insane". can't for the life of my find it. but in elton's greatest hits, it has a quote from lennon practically saying that he was the greatest songwriters of all time. guess lennon was insane too. next time i'm at my brothers, i'll grab the notes and get the quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nal Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 can't for the life of my find it. but in elton's greatest hits, it has a quote from lennon practically saying that he was the greatest songwriters of all time. guess lennon was insane too. next time i'm at my brothers, i'll grab the notes and get the quote. Elton John isn't a better songwriter than Lennon. Thats all that needs to be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Elton John isn't a better songwriter than Lennon. Thats all that needs to be said. elton john dies in 1979 and you would all be looking at him differently. i have no doubt in my mind about this. he's not a great song-writer ...full stop he writes the tunes so he doesn't write the vocal melodies? does this mean that geddy lee and alex lifeson aren't songwriters either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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