am i the only one who hopes

[greeneyes1980]

you were never welcome to come in

Edited September 8, 2008 by greeneyes1980

[Kowalski]

What you have is two perspectives. One is that Murray beat Nadal and raised his game tremendously. The other is that Nadal lost to Murray who would not ease up and because of his tiredness could not get a grip on the contest.

[ben_cosmia]

What you have is two perspectives. One is that Murray beat Nadal and raised his game tremendously. The other is that Nadal lost to Murray who would not ease up and because of his tiredness could not get a grip on the contest.

Am I free to leave now?

[-MaDMAn-]

worm, the fact is he won.

if nadal wins then you say it was skill and determination..a man at his peak and the player that lost was outplayed and its career over or the begining of the end and wont accept anything less.

if nadal loses its because he was tired, injured or the other guy was just plain lucky as there is just no way anyone could beat him fair and square.

no point trying to have sensible debate. there will always be some excuse or biased view.

Its sure is nice that you are such a dedicated fan of nadal.. i'm a fan too.. but im a bigger fan of the sport as a whole and can give credit where credit is due.

murray beat nadal fair and square, tiredness is not an acceptable excuse.. it was nadals choice to enter the tournament, im sure he wouldnt of entered if he didnt think he could win it.

[worm]

So Nadal needs to work on his fitness then?

[worm]

worm, the fact is he won.

[greeneyes1980]

The French, The British and The Olympic title? I don't know if it's possible.

[worm]

nope cos both those perspectives arent exclusive. i believe they both happened and murray gets credit for both.

[worm]

well you say British, we from London like to call it the London Open! if you dont mind.

[greeneyes1980]

How can Murray get credit for Nadal's perspective?

Nadal stated that he was tired and did not believe that he would compete in the final of this tournament. He said that this was because of his strenuous 08 campaign.

Edited September 8, 2008 by greeneyes1980

[greeneyes1980]

Well done Greeneyes.

[worm]

can i get a linky please, i can believe a player will say he is tired, but not talk like that?

thats just down right loser talk!!

Edited September 8, 2008 by worm

[-MaDMAn-]

can i ask why you get so defensive when anyone remotely criticizes nadal?

i dont think one person here would disagree that nadal is deservedly world no1, we are just appreciating what a fine match they both played and recognising that murray won through skill. This whole thread is about murray and why we DIDNT want him to win (well not all of us lol).. not nadal is shit please prove us wrong worm.

[Radar]

Why has it gone all quiet?

1) Has the bored died due to the boring conversation about tennis?

2) Is it like Bagpuss, and has to be kept awake?

3) Yes I am being obnoxious, but I deal badly with workplace boredom. I can't seem to get a new job, so I need entertaining digital people to talk to. Sad I know.

[-MaDMAn-]

oooh oooh multiple choice..

cant make my mind up...

erm.. think damn you think...

C?

do i win?

[ben_cosmia]

How can Murray get credit for Nadal's perspective?

Nadal stated that he was tired and did not believe that he would compete in the final of this tournament. He said that this was because of his strenuous 08 campaign.

[Radar]

do i win?

[ben_cosmia]

good effort!

true though, this board (noted typo before) always seems to die sometime in the afternoon between 2 and 4

[Radar]

i blame those part timers!

[worm]

can i ask why you get so defensive when anyone remotely criticizes nadal?

Edited September 8, 2008 by worm

[llcoolphil]

i love that fact that Worm is the authority on any thing sport in here!!

[worm]

Why limit the statement to just sport

[llcoolphil]

I know nothing about fancy dress ideas, Amir Khan or Ticketrunner.co.uk.

[bouncingflea]

When the rain came at 2:41 p.m. Saturday, Nadal held a 3-2 lead in the third set and was up a break. He said he was thankful to regroup, and was classy after his defeat Sunday when talking about the wrench in scheduling.

"It wasn't the best moment because it was a semifinals of the U.S. Open, but at the same time, never is a good moment, no?" said Nadal. "I tried my best, I wasn't very fresh during all the tournament." He added of Murray, "He beat me because he was better than me."

Linky

[Kowalski]

Sky's build up has started.

Annabelle Croft would still get it.

C'mon Murray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!