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I would have thought Copping would be shitting himself with Slipknot retiring/going on hiatus plus Rammstein moving to stadiums as their shows won't fit at festivals anymore and the likes of Ozzy, KISS, Aerosmith etc retiring he's gonna be even more fucked for headliners now. Bring Me are gonna have to headline every other year now. lol In any case a new album! 🙂

System and Slipknot the same year is too ambitious for Download. It's gonna be Def Leppard, Pantera 50.5% Proof, Whitesnake and Faith No More!

As long as they don't change the rules this year there's a certain amount of booze you can bring in once you get there but you can take your own drinks with you wherever.

That reminds me I need to listen to their new album.

If Sonisphere was still a thing then Live Nation would be pouring money into Download to try and kill Soni off like they did last time.

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Tiers is just for the pricing, the first tier is the cheapest and the last tier are the most expensive.

You’re missing the point or only read half my post. For all the talk about only stadium headliners should headline Download there’s a lack of stadium headliners actually playing but still there is this expectation they should play resulting in these boring repeated headliners like Def Leppard who are grandfathered in despite not being stadium acts themselves. There’s a big need to move on from this idea of only stadium bands so more interesting acts can headline and be accepted.

Fair point although they have only just started playing stadiums and two dates at smaller stadiums is way off them being in the same league as a Foo Fighters type stadium band.

It’s all well and good thinking Download getting Foo Fighters, Green Day or whoever is the solution but the reality is Download either can’t afford them (apart from Guns n Roses I don’t think they have had a band that can do a stadium tour in the UK for a decade now) or they are just very shit at negotiating/convincing bands to play.

You’d be surprised by how many people that can be turned by them live even if they don’t like their music. I took my missus to see Bring Me who mainly went for the free bar since we were given a VIP box and she really enjoyed their show despite not being a fan. The same thing happened when me and a bunch of mates went to APE, we got free tixs and they wanted to see IDLES, RTJ and Nothing But Thieves but came away impressed with Bring Me. I look forward to the day when Download brings in new headliners regularly so I can start calling potential new headliners shit for their horrible music rather than having to defend the same acts for the idea of having someone new headline because the old guard only accepts the same old shit.

But you are picky though. 😜 Lets rewind, someone suggested two main stages with acts like Pantera and Five Finger headlining the second stage so you said that's not going for it as those headliners are only sub-sized or something along those lines. I find the idea of having 8 headliners the size of Metallica, Slipknot etc on both stages very unrealistic for various reasons and going for it could be something as simple as they have added an extra day then it's business as usual for the rest of the line up rather than it's gonna be the strongest Download line up of all time which is all I am saying.

Guns n Roses? They have a Glasgow stadium show to do after cancelling it this year so a festival next year seems likely whilst they are over but Glasto doesn't pay, Download is booked up already, probably too big for IOW and they had a falling out with R&L last time which leaves BST and is the sort of older act that they can sell all the extra premium shit for.

With Guns n Roses having to do a Glasgow show to make up for cancelling it this year I’d laugh if Download asks Bring Me to sub now as Guns are available. It would piss them right off just like what happened last time with Rammstein.

So on the slim chance that Ozzy doesn't push back his gigs again does that rule out Pantera then? His UK tour is during Download so it means Zakk Wylde is busy. I suppose there's an off day from the tour they could do Download and maybe book Anthrax so Charlie is there too and Download can have Pantera as Euro exclusive but I don't know if that gives them the rehearsal time needed.

Good for you but I said nothing at all about that. I just said to keep your expectations in check and to not drink the going all out kool aid since you were taking about how someone’s predictions is not going all out enough for you, this type of thinking will only lead to disappointment after hyping yourself for an impossible line up you made up for yourself.

Going all out means different things to different people. It could mean they have put an extra day on, it could mean stronger headliners, it could mean an amazeballs undercard or it could just simply mean it was the buzz words they used to hype the festival. I wouldn’t read too much into it as exceptions aren’t likely to be met if people get too carried away especially you who is ridiculously picky when it comes to festivals. Also I find them saying they going out this year funny as it implies they half arse it every year. Lol

I can imagine the outrage if Parkway Drive headlined over Pantera 50.5% Proof from the old guard. It’s odd as if Pantera were on the poster it wouldn’t motivate me at all to get a tix but if I did go I’d probably see them.

You're so much more optimistic than I am. Enjoy!

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Yep, I just gave it a try and got to the payment however it wont accept my card as it's not American Express. It's pain in the arse as I has Amex at one point but got rid of it when I changed banks.

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Yeah, if we ignore Cancel Culture isn't really the thing people think it is for a moment as a concept it's not something I agree with as it ignores being able to repent or rehabilitation which are more lefty values than the right idea of Law & Order/punishing people to make yourself feel better so it's fucking odd thing to get you knickers in a twist anyway. In any case it's all bollocks. I'm gonna listen to Babymetal now since there's nothing controversial about them! 😜

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It's entirely possible to be left wing and have some right wing views or vice versa as the world is full of greys rather than just black and white. You can be pro-Brexit and anti-nationalism or anti-lockdown but pro-vaccination or pro-conservative and pro-gay (probably because of how much they buggered each other in their private schools 😜 ) so just because they are against one induvial thing it doesn't make them an alt right white power c**t. Although some members of System Of A Down coming out as right wing is a fucking odd one.