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Top of my list is Gorillaz and then Nick Cave is a close second and I wouldn't mind The National and Tame Impala.

Lucky sod! I ain’t won shit yet on these competitions.

Bob Vylan has been announed a new London show this week!

Who are saying The Strokes are relevant though?

The new Black Panther Lego sets have just revealed who takes over as Black Panther. Lol

I like how all posts from Chad end up with him complaining about how he doesn't understand the yoof music. Neither do I but I just say they are shit and move on from it rather than trying to quantify those acts. lol

Needs more Saxon!

He didn't direct the Scooby Doos, he just wrote them.

You make it sound like Copping is somekind of cowboy.

Manson was a co-headlined tour with Rob Zombie where Rob was the one to play last. Apparently the two of them hated each other on that tour.

Metal was never a mainstream public consciousness type of music yet there are metal acts that start playing arenas for the first time every year. You're thinking Download needs stadium headliners because it's the same bollocks that's always been said even though Download rarely ever gets stadium acts. There are acts like Iron Maiden, System Of A Down, Slipknot who aren't big enough to do stadium tours in this country but yet bring in whopping crowds still. If Download treats someone like Ghost, Bring Me or whoever then they will be seen as a headliner the same way they did with System and Slipknot. If anything having more metal acts who are stadium headliners in general would probably fuck over the festival as those acts would skip the festival and create more competition for ticket sales with their own mega shows. I agree with Download doesn't think about it's own future but not the same way you do, instead of downsizing they need to make the line ups stronger. Download is booked without it's finger on the pulse of the hard rock scene for example Bring Me the biggest UK metal band who have been playing arenas for ages now have only ever played the mainstage once and Download is meant to be the biggest UK metal festival so it's mental they haven't booked them as a mainstage act more. The bottom half of the main stage line up gets filled up with shit like Alestorm or pub rock bands who will never get bigger than that slot rather than those shit hot bands like Code Orange, Bob Vylan etc and when they do play the fest it's for 25mins on the smallest stages against the big bands. It doesn't help that Download is booked liked a budget festival either, Skindred third down and The Distillers headlining the second stage is weak. I find the headliner borings but that can be forgiven if the undercard is shit hot which it rarely ever is.

Nah, if you look at Monsters Of Rock in the 80s it was getting huge crowds and except for AC/DC they didn't really have stadium headliners in those days, just shit like Whitesnake, Status Quo and Rainbow. A festival is more than just it's headliners and it can be a big festival without big stadium headliners which is what makes this thread so boring as that's all what everyone wants to talk about even though it's a symptom of Download's shit booking throughtout the line up due to everyone needing to prove themselves or they are a R&L type acts. The funny thing is the same thing happened to Monsters Of Rock in the 90s, they didn't embrace the new acts of the day like Rage Against The Machine, Marilyn Manson, Green Day, NIN, Ash, Pearl Jam etc so they were made obsolete and Download was meant to be the solution to the Monsters Of Rock problem but after the last 10 years they have gone backwards or manage fuck up easy wins for themselves.

That sucks for the other others acts but at the same time if the stage was that weak maybe they shouldn't be playing on it.

So what happened with Bob Vylan, did they fuck the stage up or something and now the other acts can’t play?

Prodigy were on at 9.30, I'm not sure about the support act as I got in late around 8ish and the support act was already on. You are in for a treat, it's still a Prodigy gig and what they did for Firestarter was a really lovely tribute to Flint. It's fucking hot though, I felt cooler at a Rammstein gig with their 100s of flamethrowers.

That sucks if true. It does explain why Nova Twins ended up supporting Skunk Anaise earlier this year after Never Not Nothing were originally announced as the support act. It felt like they were one support slot away from blowing up. I saw them 4ish times in 2019, I fell in love with them when they supported Frank Carter on his small club tour that year and then every festival I went that summer I made sure to drag everyone with me to check them out as they were so good live. They were one of the bands at the top of my list to see after lockdown was lifted.

Nope, I'm seeing them tonight. Apparently the support acts opened at 7.45 on the other nights so I imagine it's the same at Brixton.

Yeah it was a great day. You missed my favourite band of the day though Black Futures (now called Never Not Nothing) as soon as they were on I went straight into the pit and my mate who hates moshing and despite not knowing them was won over enough to join in.

4th seems the most likely spot on the line up for them but a run of While She Sleeps - Architects - Bring Me is just so perfect that they should just do it!

£7.50 tixs for The Libertines with The Cribs this weekend. https://www.weticketit.com/showfilmfirst/booking/Event/detail/CPO80671

Jagur Skills is the support at the show I'm going to but they have a different DJs supporting depending on the date and I can't remember who the others are.

If the dog does understands walk and you keep saying walk then you're just hyping up the poor pup.

I've just listen to the new Siberian Meat Grinder album, I'm a bit disappointed by it and I normally love these guys. Maybe I just need to hear them in a pit?

It won't happen but since Trent can't be arsed to play shows he's not excited about and NIN would sadly have the usual not big enough complaints to outright headline I'd love to see NIN headline the second stage with them curating their own day. Throwing in their contemporaries like Jane's Addiction or Filter, their influences like Ministry or Skinny Puppy and some newer arty alt rock he seems to like Yves Tumor or HMLTD would make a fucking awesome day.

Ah, I thought you meant punching the air in excitement as he can flog a few more tixs when they play in the usual short term thinking from him. Yeah, even Michael Eavis and Melvin Benn clocked onto they don't get the yoof anymore so they let someone else start booking with them since they are so out of touch. Copping isn't the humblest of guys so it will take Download crashing for him to realise that imo.