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Watching Lorde, she was alright, Green Light was wonderful. Most disappointing was waiting for her to climb or do something with the massive sun dial thing on stage. Her box in 2017 was far cooler.

Is it ever at capacity after hours? Do you happen to know the capacity of the SE Corner in total?

Did the ket kick in halfway through this post?

RTJ King Gizzard Kool & the Gang Tribe Called Quest (or Q-Tip) Foals Elton John De La Soul Wu-Tang Jurassic 5 Blackalicious Chemical Brothers (Live) Wet Let The Streets

That's it. I had the word Sandometry in my head, but Sandalism is much better 😄

Were kids meant to be playing on it? Lol. What was the theme this year anyway?

I remember them being there for quite a few festivals, maybe they just wanted a change or didn't think they helped during busy periods. Was the sand sculpture still there that changes a little each day? The best one was I've seen over one festival was the sleeping woman who slowly lost her skin, then muscles etc, like one big sand autopsy.

Wow, it was def 6 a few years back because my friends and I had to split into groups of 6, which caused some problems. Certainly doesn't help spread the tickets out and allows far bigger groups to get together.

Out of all the times I've wanted to go, I've luckily succeeded either in the main sale or resale. It's always tense and sometimes when you fail the first time in Oct it's easy to sack the whole thing off. Out of curiosity, has anyone overcooked the F5 key? I mean, refreshed it until you get the ticket sales page and then keep going by accident and then lost it? It's my biggest ticket sales day fear, that I hammer it too much and then lose it.

Jesus. Never seen anything like that at any festival, let alone Glastonbury.

Love this level of insight!

It does seem like a copy and paste email they sent out. Really disappointing. I hope you're in a better head space soon! I was pretty annoyed at their lack of response, so I did follow up: And got this reply. I'm still annoyed that they're not putting names to their emails. It's bad enough when you can't find a contact form/contact person at a soulless company like RyanAir, but for Glastonbury to just brush people away with a nameless stroke of the keyboard just really... grates... What I get from their response is that because no one actually got hurt, there's nothing they can do about any of it retroactively. Which is kind of bullshit. There shouldn't need to be a serious injury to someone for them to be reactive. It's interesting about the numbers though. There were only an extra 3k punters, yet an extra 7k staff/performers?! How many people did Kendrick have on stage for his opening and closing again? Lol. But seriously, the numbers in the context they put it doesn't seem to make it sound *that* bad, so it leads me to think it must have been more down to a line-up that didn't spread the crowds out, inexperienced stewards, inexperienced festival-goers, and/or poor scheduling. The only positive I get from it is that they have no plans to increase it further. I just wish they would be more approachable when it comes to these kind of complaints. Especially, given it's Glastonbury.

Yeah, sorry, I should have made it clearer. I know they want to split the crowds, I meant, why have two areas serving the same product. My point was that, why can't they choose some alternative late night entertainment. Metal/Rock Local bands Jazz/funk Also, put other big DJs on is a good idea.

Sent this to the festival along with a link to this thread so they could see some of the thoughts: They gave me this reply. It's your standard non-committal politician's answer: Apparently, if anyone felt bad or got stuck, it's your own fault that you didn't read the useful tips webpage.

And yet, you didn't say, "Sanitise crowd control..." You said, "Sanitise the festival..." And how in the world do you sanitise crowd control? Health and safety is sanitisation as well... From your own gripes about people at the festival, you would also like more people to shape up and get in line and sanitise their behaviour... I'm not following, sorry.

Pretty sure in 2013, they gave the Rolling Stones more and negated that extra spending by asking someone shit to close the Sunday. Mumford and Sons would've done it for peanuts.

Let's get our hopes up really high: Artic Monkeys/Fleetwood Mac/Swift Legend: Elton John STACKED

Hey, sorry, I don't have time to answer to everyone personally. There's just too much wrong with so many of the statements being made. For summary - you can't just choose a tiny sample size of the 10 richest people in the world and say, there you go, there's white privelege. I could post the 10 richest people in India, or China, and there wouldn't be a single white person in there. Just because the USA is the richest country in the world and has been traditionally a white-dominated country. Even THEN, if you look at the average earnings by ethnicity in the USA, it is Asian-Americans who do the best. Just like the UK. It's strange right? In these two white-dominated countries, Asians (Indians, Koreans, Chinese...) do the best... It's almost as if race doesn't play a part in your income ability and it's more to do with culture.. White people only only do a little bit better than Hispanics. Anyone want to start talking about Asian privilege? Or doesn't that fit the narrative? No doubt, you'll all likely ignore the stats of millions of people and keep choosing to look at the ten richest people. I don't understand that logic myself. IMO, if you push the myth of white privilege, then you're doing more harm than good. If you told people to copy concepts from the Japanese, Chinese, Koreans etc, that would be a better message, to place value in hard work, community spirit, and further education. It's the same for choosing individual instances of sexism. There probably have been examples of companies firing women still if they're about to go into maternity leave and I agree that's not good at all. I feel like that's more of a problem with the US's working rights and the fact that a lot of states can fire you for no reason at any time. I don't think it's got much to do with gender in general. And besides, if I chose random articles to build a narrative, then I could easily do that. It would be like the Daily Mail building a narrative about the two white lesbians who were attacked on a bus in London. Does anyone remember that? Then it came out that the culprits weren't white. Then the Daily Mail could start a narrative about that and go in hideous directions with it... https://www.npr.org/2019/06/08/730951943/five-teens-arrested-in-homophobic-attack-on-london-bus You can't build narratives around intangible things like white privilege or from small sample sizes, or from a feeling/personal anecdote. Again, just to be clear, I'm not saying that bad things don't happen. Racism and sexism still exist and we have to call people out who do racist or sexist things. But likewise, your race or your gender is NOT the most determinant factor. Culture is. How hard you study. How hard you work. How you deal with failure. The fact that your parents are still together. If you finish school. These all have a far higher bearing on your life's success. If anyone does here something racist or sexist obviously, it should be called out immediately, but don't then judge every person the same based on that one person's physical make-up. We need to move away from identity politics as soon as possible. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. Hope you're all enjoying the sun.

This is the part in your original post talking about sanitisation of the festival: "Sanitise the festival to suit your agenda if you like, but be careful what you demand." All of the things I have said are truths tho. Apologies if it sounded too direct. I actually agree with bit about the fuckwits and the idiots who stand around chatting in the middle of huge thoroughfares and don't move to the side, or people who think they can claim their ground by putting a blanket down and getting uppity when others get close during busy acts. I could add banning of flares to the list as well tho - that one I'm still undecided on, personally, as it still represents a danger hazard... they just look so damn good during evening sets. The others are 100% all true... There is a Co-op on site. There is more pop every year. There are showers and they were only introduced in the last decade or so. Glamping options have appeared over the last decade or so. People do talk on the food thread about all the middle and upper-middle class crap they can't wait to eat at the festival; cheese, foccacia, olives, bio-organic cereal handmade by Nepalese monks... Haha. Okay that last one was a joke and I bet if it existed they'd be pictures of it in the Food thread in a heartbeat. All the rest are true and represent a festival that is no longer "get down and muck in", and more, "let's all spend a sw*nky weekend in the country"... NB - I would add that all the extra luxury and comfort the festival adds, certainly doesn't help with decreasing its appeal. If anything it makes it easy for absolute flakes to enjoy the festival while not foregoing too much pampering. If we could go back to the days of 5 quid sausage baguettes and a pile of greasy noodles, with people walking around stinking like filth for 5 days, with only a wetwipe in the morning as a freshen up, I'd take it.

Okay, one last reply and then I'm seriously going. You cannot compare past context with past earnings. That doesn't make any sense. And no one is suggesting that you are going to make as much money as Mr Toast Head. But if you take five children (black, Indian, non-white British, Chinese, white British, black) living in the UK and they're all in poverty, the liklihood is the Indian and Chinese kids will do the best in life. Because of culture.

Elon Musk has about 120k employees at his companies. It's almost as many as how many people were at Glastonbury last week. Should Michael Eavis be to blame, if someone does something illegal on the farm? ME also sets and drives the culture, doesn't he? You have such a cliche view of CEOs as some kind of tyrants.

Anyway, I'm out, got work coming up!

Yeah, like I said before, I'm not excusing systems in the past haven't existed, but I don't think some kind of reverse engineering of society will get us to where we want to be. I don't think historical racism needs to be corrected with modern racism.

Hahaha. I'm glad someone else gets that joke!

If it gets investigated and proven to be unfair dismissal and they were fired for being pregnant, as they work in a 'right-to-work' state, I doubt anything will happen. I have absolutely no idea why they got fired. I doubt Elon Musk did it himself either. Don't get me wrong, 'right-to-work' in the US, is a horrid job placement. You could literally get fired for anything.