"Secularism is a religion...Atheism is a religion"

[eFestivals]

We are in a recession...

and yet the blue-chips - even ones that have had massive bail-outs - continue to post recoprd profits.

It's not a recession, it's a robbery.

[abdoujaparov]

Thanks largely to the USA....

For the same reason Scotland would be safe if they dropped the nukes... The rest of the UK couldn't sit by while Scotland was invaded...

Switzerland got invaded while being neutral...

Its nice idea but history shows it false...

[abdoujaparov]

Like I said... Locking people is big business... and a big employer...

Of course it wasn't...

[kaosmark2]

Thanks largely to the USA....

For the same reason Scotland would be safe if they dropped the nukes... The rest of the UK couldn't sit by while Scotland was invaded...

Switzerland got invaded while being neutral...

Its nice idea but history shows it false...

[abdoujaparov]

I thought they were effectively invaded during the ww II ? If they weren't fair enough...

[kaosmark2]

Everyday ?

Early detection of cancer is life and death... You can wait a long time on the NHS and the numbers are going up... I could have one tomorrow with my health insurance.

Well I do pay for itself to an extent... Its a benefit in kind...

Depending on the future of the NHS I might...

Likewise I would pay for private Education if I had to... (Still possibly on the cards if she fails to get in this local school)

[kaosmark2]

The idea of rebuilding EVERY school was flawed...

But a lot of schools who had the scheme cut was the wrong decision....

[kaosmark2]

Like I said...

Your good at finding fault.. not so good with the answers...

[kaosmark2]

It has some possible traction that idea... Of course it puts our defence totally in the hands of another country... and then you have everything that goes with that...

For example, all of a sudden are ability to defend the Falklands goes etc... Yanks wouldn't support us keeping them... Bit shit for the British citizens down there... and the potential oil revenue... and future supply issues...

[kaosmark2]

You can put in infinite money and still lose it all... We need to fix the wider social issues first...

[kaosmark2]

Well that is the current cycle...

My dad had greater chances than my grandad...

I have greater chances than my dad...

Hopefully my child will have greater chances than me...

All thanks to education improvements...

So the fixing has been happening...

[eFestivals]

Well that is the current cycle...

My dad had greater chances than my grandad...

I have greater chances than my dad...

Hopefully my child will have greater chances than me...

All thanks to education improvements...

So the fixing has been happening...

latest stats say your child will have less than you.

Social mobility has started shrinking again, due to 30 years of tory policies.

[eFestivals]

Stats mean nothing on an individual basis though...

translation: I'm of the tory mold so me and mine will be fine.

It's hardly something to celebrate, is it?

[kaosmark2]

Stats mean nothing on an individual basis though...

[kaosmark2]

Most are, have been and always will be....

[kaosmark2]

It means we should probably understand there is only so much that can be done...

[eFestivals]

Woo!

18 cheers for giving up!

why the surprise?

Barry is the man who thinks that illegal tax evasion is OK as the rich fucker who's scammed their tax will have already paid a lot of tax on the money they have declared.

Which is a bit like coming home to find your house has been burgled and commending the thief for leaving half your stuff behind rather than condemning him for what he's taken.

He's the perfect fit for the research that found that low childhood intelligence causes a person to be socially conservative.

[kaosmark2]

why the surprise?

Barry is the man who thinks that illegal tax evasion is OK as the rich fucker who's scammed their tax will have already paid a lot of tax on the money they have declared.

Which is a bit like coming home to find your house has been burgled and commending the thief for leaving half your stuff behind rather than condemning him for what he's taken.

He's the perfect fit for the research that found that low childhood intelligence causes a person to be socially conservative.

[kaosmark2]

or living with reality ?

You have ignored my post above about education already delivering degrees to many people who can't find work... Making education better isn't going to fix that...

[kaosmark2]

I think your clutching at straws....

Unless we move from capitalism then we will have the poor and the rich... We can make everything more fair to give more opportunities but we won't drastically change anything...

Education isn't the key you think it is... We still need 400 shelf stackers to one store manager...

We need to sail on the good ship Neil and pay the 400 shelf stackers exactly the same as the store manager... as well as paying the corporate director the same as well...

Of course, thats totally unworkable... Unless you want to live it up the North Korean way ?

[eFestivals]

We need to sail on the good ship Neil and pay the 400 shelf stackers exactly the same as the store manager... as well as paying the corporate director the same as well...

and just to prove how hugely thick you are, you fantasise things I've never once remotely said, and have told you countless previous times I've never said.

Do things only get into your head if beaten with a baseball bat? You keep demonstrating that simple conversation doesn't work.

[eFestivals]

If it is feudalism then your going to need more than Education to fix it...

you're dead right of course. So come the revolution you'll be one of the first against the wall.

[kaosmark2]

If it is feudalism then your going to need more than Education to fix it...

[kaosmark2]

Yeah ok... Whatever...

I will leave you and Neil to discuss the coming revolution...

[eFestivals]

Our future is Greece at best... North Korea at worse... You and Neil will lead us to the glory land

if it's like greece then that'll be the fault of you turning a blind eye to all that's going wrong; that's exactly what happened within greece to get them to where they are.