Labour Leadership Contest

[Alcatraz]

I don't see how a coalition surviving to 2015 as a sign of it being unstable, quite the opposite in fact

[Uncle Liam]

Wow, I didn't realise you were that kind of Liberal...

That's the same old tired argument that has been proven wrong so many times before. It was used against the NMW, against the £150,000 tax, etc etc etc!

Let's not forget that it was Labour who were the only ones in favour of the NMW and what happened in 1997? The country gave them the authority to have it introduced. People care more about equality in wage than you think.

[llcoolphil]

Let's not forget that it was Labour who were the only ones in favour of the NMW and what happened in 1997? The country gave them the authority to have it introduced. People care more about equality in wage than you think.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

And let's not forget that after 13 years of Labour government, Ed Milliband reckons you left people earning poverty wages. And the earnings gap grew. People might care about wage equality, but there is f*ck all point voting labour to achieve it. We have the ludicrous situation that companies such as Tesco make billions in profit paying poor wages knowing the state will subsidise their wage bill.

[Hello... I'm Johnny Cash]

David Milliband. He's the only one that will get Labour elected.

'nuff said.

[llcoolphil]

I've gone over this a billion times before about how progressive change has to be shaped on a steady pace. The living wage is the next stop from the National Minimum Wage. The High Pay Commission will be the continuin part of the Low Pay Commisions legacy.

You're also exagerating shite there.

But please, until your ready to get up and do something, don't stand around criticising me for getting off my arse and trying to promote change.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Firstly, we have gone over this a billion times, you're right. However, your flaw in this argument, as I have repeatedly pointed out is that there is no point having progressive change at a steady pace if you aren't in government to implement change. That is, Labour were in government for 13 years. They are never going to be in government longer than that. What is the point of having change that takes 20 years if you only have 13 years to implement it? Are the coalition about to introduce a high pay commission? Because the problem with labour introducing it is that they aren't in a position to do so and when they were in a position to do so, they didn't do it.

[Snufflebutt]

Me mam received a ballot paper through the post - she's a member of Unite I think. She couldnt give a shite about the leadership election. I think I'll steal it and make it a Burnham/ Abbott 1-2.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Me mam received a ballot paper through the post - she's a member of Unite I think. She couldnt give a shite about the leadership election. I think I'll steal it and make it a Burnham/ Abbott 1-2.

[Snufflebutt]

Keep Dave down and Ed up when your ballot gets wiped off and votes accredited to the next choice.

[oafc0000]

off on holiday in the morning so looks like its not going to come in time unless it arrives today...

Was going to vote..

1. David M
2. Dianne A
3. Andy B
4. Ed M
5. Ed B

Edited September 3, 2010 by oafc0000

[Snufflebutt]

Just out of interest, anyone know how much the political levy is with the trade unions? And do you get 2 votes if you are a labour member and trade union member?

[Alcatraz]

Just out of interest, anyone know how much the political levy is with the trade unions? And do you get 2 votes if you are a labour member and trade union member?

[llcoolphil]

off on holiday in the morning so looks like its not going to come in time unless it arrives today...

Was going to vote..

1. David M
2. Dianne A
3. Andy B
4. Ed M
5. Ed B

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Should get the papers through today.

I'm doing..

Ed M

Diane A

Ed B

Andy B

David M

Undeicided about what order the last two go in.

[Alcatraz]

1. Ed Miliband

2. Ed Balls

3. Diane Abbott

4. Burnham

5. Bananaman

[oafc0000]

Forms arrived just in time

[oafc0000]

Just voted online which is cool me thinks

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Just out of interest, anyone know how much the political levy is with the trade unions? And do you get 2 votes if you are a labour member and trade union member?

[Kowalski]

So technically I could get 3 votes. Party member, TU member, Affiliated society member.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Just out of interest, have you ever kissed a girl?

[Alcatraz]

Just came home to my papers. All very exciting

[Pogues Mcgogues]

I think that's a bit too cryptic actualy. It's a private joke to Kowalski.

Key clue - Sugar Daddy at the side of the football pitch.

[Stash]

Whilst not strictly a question about the current leadership vote, I thought that people here might be able to tell me why Tony Blair, who is the Middle East peace envoy for the United Nations, European Union, United States, and Russia is currently on a book signing tour whilst a peace conference is taking place in Washington between Palestine and Israel?

I realise that Blair was a Bush recruit to the role, and the current administration will want to be seen to be fixing the Middle East, but does the job mean so little that he actually isn't needed. Did he have anything to do with making this happen, or is it just that he is being paid no matter what he actually does?

[llcoolphil]

It's thirded into equal weight.

The vote of MP's

The vote of part members

The vote of Trade Union members and affiliated socialist societies