pushing in?

[mandypants]

For the shortarses in our family we use these:

from Argos

they also make handy tables back at the campsite.

[G1T]

This thread's interesting, made me reflect on what i used to do. I did used to push past people a lot, but it was always on the way to the moshpit, and there's always room for one more in a pit. The trick is to find a chain of people moving forward and join it, which is why you can get such long chains sometimes. My record so far is nearly 50 people all moving in a chain towards a stage (not that i count them that often, honest).

The streams of people walking past can get annoying, but then I find it's generally worst around the middle of a crowd, so if it does annoy me i just move back or move forwards until i get out of the place where it's most concentrated.

The only time I've ever actually annoyed people with it was during Radiohead in '97. Turned up a little late due to the mud, and tried to make my way forward a bit as the crowd was pretty dispersed near the back. Due to the way the ground had been so churned up though, small hillocks had appeared here and there, and not seeing one i slipped down it due to the mud, taking out a few people on the way. Got some angry comments, but was hugely apologetic and all seemed ok.

Think I've only once had someone tell me that there was no room next to them when stopping after moving forward, and telling me to get lost, but I just pointed out it was a gig, and within 5 minutes we were all packed in like sardines anyway as everyone else moved forward too.

So yeah, meh, if it gets annoying i move a bit and it stops. Leaving chairs unfolded in front on the stage though, where in rubbery hell did that antisocial nonsense spring from? It's a gig for god's sake, make some space!

[krisskross]

the worst thing i had being stuck to the railings at the front of a gig was watching defenestration at reading in 2000/1. The guy behind me started randomly headbutting me to get me to move. I didnt really know what to do cos he was a bit mental and I didnt want to piss him off more - even if i wasnt going to move. After a little bit the nice girl next to me got security to pull him out, without too much of a fight

[jamiejc]

Think I shall be investing

[Glitter+Vodka]

I saw Kasabian tonight and turned up for doors opening, so I could be at the very front. It was pretty quiet thru the support acts, but when Kasabian started obviously loads more people were pushing into the front, which is fine, thats what happens. But these 3 girls turned up, and there was just about space for one of them to squeeze in beside me, then she said to me "can u just let my mate get in" I was like errrm theres no space? where would u like to me to go? they continued pushing me and generally being complete fannies, elbowing me intentionally, kicking me, and I heard them saying "f**k sake just let us in". The front was jam packed and people were gradually being pushed away from the barrier as it was, and they expected me, who had waited 2 hours on my own to be there, just to move out their way.

A bit later, I ended up being pushed away from the barrier and ended up directly behind one of these girls,who was still at the barrier, and one of the mates was about 2 people behind me. It was jam packed, and I was pretty much stood on one foot coz there was no space to put the other down. She asked me to get her mates attention, so I tapped her mate on the shoulder, she turned round, they grabbed each others hands, and then she said to me "now u need to let me through"... I just laughed at her and carried on dancing, and she shouted to the girl at the front "SHE wont let me through". Damn f*cking right I wont, again, where did they want me to go?!

I dont mind getting pushed about, thats what I expect, or people pushing past me to get closer to the front, if theres space to get in, go for it. But I do object to people who get pissed off and act like brats because theres no space for them to get in.

[Glastoboy]

You're not. There's a few people here who need chill out.

people leaving, people arriving, Short people, tall people, People sitting down, people standing up, people on shoulders, flags waving, people sitting on chairs, people sitting on the ground in the dark, people going where they want, people talking, people doing silly things. That's Glasto! And I f**king love all of it!

[wiltshireham]

I have no problem with anyone trying to get closer to the stage as long as they do it carefully and politely. They cannot assume that they will get closer. Manners cost nothing. The only time i got p****d off last year was when they barged their way through regardless of who was standing / sitting in their way. At the JP tent waiting to watch Doves, a group steamed in (late) and took out a couple who were sitting on the floor. No regard and no manners. Just ask nicely and if they can, peole will let you through. Just don't assume that because you are cute/small/in a group you have an automatic right to barge to the front.

Chill and enjoy. There is plenty of room for everyone.