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Have Pinkpop announced anything so far?

What other London venues are available?

I'd forgotten they did such a collab. That would be quite something to see happen live, and Brandon has form singing with Bruce (Pinkpop in 2009 I think?) so would be cool to see the reverse.

One of the things I'd like to do is Mad Cool and I know they're there. Plus I know there's already a few arena dates planned for June and July. I've heard 3/4 songs. The Bandit and the title song are pretty good. Didn't really care for Echoing, and the rest were kinda OK without grabbing my attention. But I may be justified in giving it a re-listen.

Manchester City's penalty shootout loss to West Ham means somebody else is winning the Carabao Cup for the first time since 2017... kinda feels weird to say out loud given how dominant they've been in it of late.

I feel like Metallica did their own show at the Mad Cool site not that many years before the great 2020 pause.

I thought Adele wasn't all that bothered by doing festivals. That and I also pondered if she was a big deal in Spain as she is in the UK, but probably could get away with booking own shows rather than piggy backing on something like this.

Interesting - I've struggled with some of the album tracks on previous Foals albums but haven't here. I agree there's a good 12-14 song album in this, but there was enough to keep me interested across the two LPs. Was about to ask aloud if they'd been announced for any dates next year only to remember I still have tickets from a deferred Brixton show. Unless there was a festival announcement that had passed me by.

I mean that jump from GA price to golden circle is absurd. Do you even get any VIP stuff for that?

I've seen them live twice and the outdoor version was better. But that's circumstance. The MK Bowl show I went to in 2014 had a lot going for it, both in KoL's set and the general weather, while although I did like the show structure of their 2017 date, the crowd was full of arseholes. I'm kinda also bemused by Kings of Leon's insistence of filling their sets with a lot of Come Around Sundown material when it's probably their weakest album of the ones I've heard. I haven't really listened to the new album so I've not been that enthusiastic about trying for this tour yet, but still plenty of time to consider options.

Bit like my experience of Spectre tbf as one of my friends fell asleep during it. We went at 10pm on a Friday night though, which was not the time to see it.

This was the original plan in 2020 before everything went to shit right?

I've just seen it today. Almost felt like a novelty to go out to the cinema to see a film under 2 hours long at this point. Was kinda goofy fun. I agree with a review who said it was almost fun as a buddy movie between Hardy & Venom then being a superhero flick, though the post-credit sequence raises some very interesting possibilities.

Have there been any rumours as to who might be getting the gig?

I'm not opposed to the concept, more that I got briefly excited from seeing an announcement that The Strokes were touring with RHCP, thinking that meant London and that I was up for the idea of such a double bill and felt I would be less uneasy with such a ticket price if that's what we were getting, only to realise it was for US shows and we were getting somebody I'd not really heard of. But judging from reviews, he'd be a decent fit for such a support slot. Will need to go for a listen.

I would've been more surprised if it had been taken further tbh.

I didn't think it would get worse in the second half. Boy was I wrong.

What the hell am I watching? Man United's defence seems to just fall apart whenever Liverpool so much as look at it.

I'm not sure how happy we can truly be when being 19th in the Premier League table and without a win since May. But I'm aware that you'd think being shot of two primary sources of dissatisfaction would ease some of the problems. But as said above, football fans like complaining. I think part of it is residual, given there was a lot of pent up irritation with the takeover being delayed, part of it is getting annoyed by TalkSport pundits who have provided bad takes on Newcastle in the past, and part of it is some people feeling at odds with those outside the fanbase who aren't impressed by who our new majority owners are. Tbf I did think it would be a harder sell outside the fanbase - not because it's us, but because any club being subject to this kind of deal was going to be subject to a fuck ton of scrutiny. Saw the banner and I think it was about more than just that. Perhaps not surprisingly it went down more negatively among Newcastle fans than others. I'm surprised it's needed such a referral tbh.

Part of me feels a little bad for Tim Krul - good keeper at Newcastle whose career was damaged by a massive injury in 2015 and some misjudged loan moves in 2016/17, did well to get back to first choice for a team that can challenge for promotion from the Championship, but then has to sit behind a Norwich defence that falls apart whenever a PL quality striker so much looks at it.

May have misread the message I quote-posted then. But in fairness I thought there was talk a while ago the festival might have to relocate away from the site, even if so far it looks like it will still be at Valdebebas.

I seem to recall that RHCP had Dizzee Rascal as support for Knebworth a decade or so ago. Was slightly more unexpected when he turned up as support for Muse a year later. More unexpected was Babymetal for their 2016 UK shows, which I would've been interested in seeing but couldn't get it over the line. I will seek it out and see what I reckon.

Was curious so thought I'd have a look. Had a bigger budget in season 2 and got relegated... doesn't back up my argument he did well at Hull that. Though certainly his legacy there must be better for fans to chant for him back than at, say, Villa and their cabbage throwing stuff, or indeed us. We'd have to pick a garbage manager to want Bruce back. I guess really a lot of the Benitez-Bruce thing is emotional connection, and stuff like that from Bruce didn't help. Sarcastic references to the "Mighty Rafa" and at one point Eddie Howe in press conferences were a strange way to spend press conferences, plus multiple negative references to fans. Maybe it's a character thing - Allardyce is of a similar ilk and seemed to openly fall out with West Ham and Everton fans, as well as Newcastle's. Certainly, if Arteta had been made Newcastle manager - he was the early bookies favourite after Rafa left - I as a Newcastle fan may have been justified in giving more of a shit about what he had to say about Newcastle United.

I would argue he did well overall at Hull, given he got them promoted and straight back into the PL after relegation in 2015, and especially moreso given some of Hull's self-destructive tendencies under their unpopular owners since. I wasn't sure how liked Bruce is by Hull fans given he defended their owner's attempts to rebrand them Hull Tigers, although interestingly there's word a few chanted for him to come back during a defeat by Luton earlier today. He must've done something right at Sheffield Wednesday as I gather their fans were pretty unhappy with Newcastle for approaching him and even more annoyed with him for ditching them for SJP. I do kinda agree with the latter point. Some very much take it too far - the original version of that article from the Mag highlighted did seem to cross the line of good taste - but he was given an absurdly generous contract, got lucky last season that Fulham gave up after the March international break, failed to make the most of his reprieve this season, and got thrown overboard when it seems likely the board may've given him a chance to show he deserved to spend the wealth. That exit interview has certainly been good at setting the terms of the discussion in a way I don't think has been seen with many other sackings.

I'm aware that they weren't a million miles apart. Discounting our Championship stay, if there's any slight difference on PL numbers, its probably that Benitez won 3/4 games in his spell at the end of 2015/16 while Bruce didn't win any in a near-equivalent number this campaign, though it is possible this could be cancelled out by two long winless runs in Benitez's pair of full seasons. I don't think Bruce helped himself win over unhappy Newcastle fans by sarcastically referring to "Mighty Rafa" when comparisons were brought up in press conferences, which happened more than once (happened with Eddie Howe as well once).