Memory Man

Are we realistically thinking razz for the likely national show and then hopefully the apolo for people like me who want to see the other stuff billed for the city on the weds that isnt the national? Forum is an easy skip for me that day.

She would only be available for the thursday and thats already stacked so cant see anything being added to the thursday. She is out

Will sell tickets to a demographic that does not frequent efestivals dot co dot uk Its not for me whatsoever but obvious why these acts are booked

Lots of acts will just not take a pay cut to play and this is one of many

I love this idea but cant imagine the block 9 crew would be too pleased They’ve had the notting hill carnival takeover down there but still fairly low key

Spot on as always ben. Your eloquence is admirable!

Exactly. This is why it can only really be cost savings. One stage doesnt ruin your entire experience but its the removal of choice and a venue that offered something slightly different

Anyway its never coming back and i wont forgive them, but whats done is done

They do but its not the same level there is a big, big gulf in stature between playing the emerging talent comp and being booked low down on woodsies or park Panic shack for example played truth stage last year, and would have been a perfect candidate for a williams green show. The smaller stages dont book the same way WG did. Grove played greenpeace, same applies. Both were on the thursday which got them a good crowd which was nice. but neither stage does specifically what WG did. it was the place you caught amyl and the sniffers or yard act before they made the step up.

Unless theres any other knowledge it can only be costs? they could have just stopped opening it on the thursday, if that was the issue. Or booked stuff most people hadnt heard of / given a leg up to emerging bands. can you tell i am still annoyed about it 😂 glasto at this point are asking the the rest of the festival sector and industry to do the new bands / talent development for them and book acts 2/3 years down the road on park / woodsies that have already done the festival circuit by the time they reach that level you can already see the stars of tomorrow at green man and end of the road usually 2 years before they get anywhere near glastonbury. Removing the main tent these acts have available to them is piss poor.

After the initial setup costs car henge will be a pittance to roll out year on year. The foundations are in place they just need labour time to build it, take it down and somewhere to store it. All of which they already have plenty of. Why else would it have been done other than costs? WG was incorrectly considered expendable and a cost saving. Someone else's favourite area / tent is next.

Sadly absolutely spot on they save thousands booking a williams green lineup tho….. meanwhile new bands breaking through are meant to play where exactly?

In a thread of sarcasm this is 100% true its a no brainer and an easy win!

Hmm! It felt very very empty at the time. Obviously numbers way off but it felt very empty when walking through In fact you can see from your picture how sparse it was when you zoom in. What i mean is that they need to be putting something at 3pm on the saturday on the pyramid that ideally draws more than 4-5k people out of 200k.

There was about 500 people watching amadou & mariam the rest of the site must have been heaving

Definitely agree about the pyramid not being able to hoover up as much of the crowd and possibly making everywhere else busier i would be very keen to see LCD and PJ Harvey but also feel like they are being wasted on the pyramid which is huge and hard to get a decent atmosphere going on. they would both have been much better placed headlining somewhere else. LCD should be headlining west holts and PJ harvey literally anywhere else. Her set will go down like a lead balloon on the pyramid im afraid. Both great bookings but placed awfully by agents / the festival bookers imo lcd will be full of people waiting for dua

The main area of issue is the sheer number of boring repeat bookings, but also these are “friends of the festival” ie those that will do it for 4 cans and a bag of crisps - ie those you need to lean on when budgets are tight. and as has rightly been said, this is only an issue for regulars.

It may be a bit flat for now but as the first few areas drop and the resale nears it will warm up again the resale will still be the hardest ever, despite the average lineup. So many regulars have missed out on tickets (me included) so i expect the resale to be extremely hotly contested Even getting a volunteering place as someone who has never (had to) do it before has been impossible Final point, it was always going to be a bit of a rubbish lineup, just look at every other festival in the UK and most of them in europe. Its the whatever the opposite of a vintage year for festivals is!

I think the kills might be added to friday 23 august so far they have: weds 21 aug - manchester sat 24 august - rock en seine paris one random midweek uk date doesnt really make sense and theyve a 1st May london date to complete before they can probably be announced

Suggests more friday of all points east to me

Also this whole faithless issue could be undone by just moving them to fri, sat or sun. there would be no bother on the glade if they headlined it on a main day thats the most sensible option and as a retro / throwback act theyre correctly placed on glade

Just a personal thing for me. I can see a band with replacement members (although original lineup is far preferable) but continuing without a lead singer just seems odd and is a step too far for me. mind you people still go see adam lambert’s queen 😂

Its not the same act though is it? you’re free to enjoy it as you would a maxi jazz-less faithless but its not what it was. honouring his life is fine but both reek of ploughing on for money without a key part of the act

Patti smith isnt mainstream enough to be a secret slot in my opinion vampire weekend and pulp are the most obvious shouts for a TBA and neither will probably do it bear in mind the recent tba’s have been: Vampire weekend, george ezra, killers, foals, foos, jack white. (its basically a who’s who of we were better / at our peak 10-15 years ago aside from ezra. Yes most are still massive but riding their 2000s heyday)

Well yes, but at least that will keep out any filler 😂