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[rossmac1987]

If your haven't seen it yet, I would check out the swagger and dreamer match from ecw this week.

Pretty damn good imo.

also tj wilson, dh smith and natalya have been in dark matches as the foundation, could be interesting.

[Uncle Liam]

Right, there is bugger all going on for the next few weeks, so now seems like a good time to do the end of year awards. I'll do a points system.

For each section, you can have three picks, 1st pick gets 3 points, 2nd gets 2 points and 3rd gets one point. And in the New Year I'll tot up the marks and we'll have our annual E Fests Wrestling Thread Awards.

Categories:

Pro Wrestling:

Wrestler of the Year

Babyface of the Year

Heel of the Year

Character of the Year

Match of the Year

Card of the Year

Feud of the Year

Angle/Segment of the Year

Tag Team of the Year

Most Underrated

Breakout Star of the Year

Promotion of the Year

Worst Wrestler of the Year

Worst Match of the Year

Worst Feud of the Year

Most Overrated

MMA:

Fighter of the Year

Fight of the Year

Card of the Year

Most Underrated

Most Overrated

Might be a good idea if we all do some preliminary lists to jog some memories.

[Uncle Liam]

Match of the Year Suggestions:

Shawn v Jeff Hardy Raw in Feb

Undertaker v Edge at Wrestlemania

Shawn v Flair at Wrestlemania

Joe v Kurt Angle at LockDown

Big Dave v Cena at Summerslam

Shawn v Chris Jericho at Unforgiven

Shawn v Chris Jericho at No Mercy (Ladder Match)

Raw Elimination Chamber at No Way Out

Kurt Angle v Jeff Jarrett at Bound for Glory

Undertaker v Edge at Summerslam (Hell in a Cell)

Jeff Hardy v Umaga on Raw in Jan (Steel Cage Match)

Randy Orton v Cena v Hunter at Wrestlemania

Randy Orton v Cena v Hunter v JBL at Backlash

Gal Kim v Awesome Kong

Big Dave v Shawn at Backlash

AJ v Kurt Angle at Slammiversary

Chris Jericho v Jeff Hardy on Raw in March (IC Title Match)

The Royal Rumble

Fight of the Year suggestions:

Brock v Randy

Brock v Frank Mir

Nogeuria v Tim Sylvia

GSP v Matt Serra

Forest Griffin v Quinton Jackson

BJ Penn v Sean Sherk

Chuck Liddell v Rashad Evans

Kenny Florian v Roger Huerta

Anderson Silva v Dan Henderson

Jason Mcdonald v Damian Maia

GSP v Jon Fitch

[Halcyon]

Oh, this could take some time!

(Except the worst match one, although I think diva matches should be exempt as they almost invariably suck)

[luckysalt]

I imagine he'll be brought in with Christian.

[Uncle Liam]

You think he's defiantly on his way back to wwe then? (christian), I wasn't so sure, but now tomko is, Rhyno's contract is up next spring, a stable of Edge, Christian, Tomko & Rhyno, damn that would be nice

Liam we should defiantly have the awards in a seperate thread, great idea

[Sparticus]

unfortunately rhyno's not likely as they probably have quite a stigma attached to him being an ecw original. Just a shame heyman doesn't do commentary anymore (is he even with the company?), when rhyno debuted the screams of GORE and the selling by jeff hardy made him look like a monster.

[Elbear]

unfortunately rhyno's not likely as they probably have quite a stigma attached to him being an ecw original. Just a shame heyman doesn't do commentary anymore (is he even with the company?), when rhyno debuted the screams of GORE and the selling by jeff hardy made him look like a monster.

[luckysalt]

Heyman now writes an online column for the Sun [our Sun - UK]]

Its quite good stuff, here you go...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/heyman/

Heyman was excellent on Commentary, Id say the best commentating team since the days of Bobby Heenan/Jesse Venture/early Lawler

You need a solid heel commentator, and WWE hasn't had one since 1995 other than Heyman

And on Rhyno, he is a monster, hes the best big man in the business today, he's solid in the ring and his promo's lately on Impact have been superb, he got pissed off in WWE because he was being buried and was going through personnal problems devorcing from his wife and she wouldn't let him have access to their child[ren] [im pretty sure it was just one child]

Vince shouldn't hold a grudge on that, Rhyno could draw money, the only big man they have who is good is Umaga, and he can't do promos and you know WWE loves that their talent can do mic work, I suppose they have Mark Henry as well, but he's tired, hes on our screens non stop for nearly 13 years

Im not counting Show or Khali they're a diferent typr of wrestler they're too big, im thinking of guys like Bam Bam Bigelow's size

Anyway, im rambling

[ampersand]

You need a solid heel commentator, and WWE hasn't had one since 1995 other than Heyman

[luckysalt]

Yup, when Lawler first started mid 1993 for the next couple of years he was excellent and even upto the attitude era he was still routing for the heels, but now he pretty pathetic, how he is still a commentator for the product god knows, Joey Styles injected passion back into the broadcast when he was hired but Vince didn't like that, so he got rid of him

He really doesn't understand how stale the product is

[Uncle Liam]

Some suggestions for Angle/Segment of the Year

Flair retirement

Jeff Hardy Swanton onto Randy Orton from the titantron

Flair/Shawn "Old Yeller"

Big Show/Mayweather at No Way Out

Big Show/Mayweather contract signing with the press slam

CM Punk winning the World Title from Edge

Edge/Mick Foley Hell in the Cell promo

Chris Jericho throwing Shawn through the jeritron 5000

Big Dave and Shawn "you did the wrong thing" "I did the right thing"

Shawn/Jericho/Rebecca at Summerslam

Anything involving Santino

EDIT: I'll try and add some TNA segments.

Kurt doing the MMA training destroying four geeks.

Thats all i can think of. At least in 2006 and 2007 we had some Nash hilarity which could always be relied on. Even thats been lacking this year...

Edited November 29, 2008 by Uncle Liam

[Purple Monkey]

So is wrestling good again? Is it fun again? Haven't watched it in years now.

I'm gonna assume we'll never see something as incredible as the Triple H vs Cactus Jack or DX vs The Rock ever again. Is it showing any promise of returning to that? It was so much mindless good fun around that time.

[rossmac1987]

Pro Wrestling:

Wrestler of the Year - Chris Jericho, HBK, Kurt Angle

Babyface of the Year - Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio, AJ Styles

Heel of the Year - Vickie Guerrero, Edge, Kurt Angle

Character of the Year - The Brian Kendrick, Sheik Abdul Bashir, Santino

Match of the Year - Shawn vs Flair - Wrestlemania, Y2J vs HBK - Unsanctioned Match, Edge vs Undertaker - Summerslam

Card of the Year - One Night Stand, Bound for glory, Wrestlemania

Feud of the Year - Y2J vs HBK, Main Event Mafia vs TNA Frontline, Regal vs Nobel

Angle/Segment of the Year - Edge and Foley Hell in a Cell, Main Event Mafia, Santino

Tag Team of the Year - The Miz and Morrison, Motor City Machine Guns, L-AX

Most Underrated - The Miz, Jamie Nobel, Cody Rhodes

Breakout Star of the Year - Evan Bourne, Jack Swagger, Consequences Creed

Promotion of the Year - WWE

Worst Wrestler of the Year - Kip James, Shark Boy, Kahli

Worst Match of the Year - Chavo vs Kane - Wrestlemania, Big Show vs Mayweather - Wrestlemania, Batista vs Cena

Worst Feud of the Year - Joe vs Nash, HHH vs Hardy vs Kozlov, Big Show vs Undertaker

Most Overrated - CM Punk, Ted DiBiase jr, Candice Michelle

MMA:

Fighter of the Year - Anderson Silva

Fight of the Year - Chris Lytle vs Paul Taylor - UFC 89

Card of the Year - UFC 91

Most Underrated - kenny florian

Most Overrated - Brock Lesnar

Edited November 30, 2008 by rossmac1987

[Purple Monkey]

Chris Jericho still around? He was one my faves for ages. Always thought he deserved to be top guy in the company but would always get f*cked over.

[luckysalt]

some TNA angle/segments

Team3D burning Abyss via 3D through flaming table

Jarrett returning

Main Event Mafia created

Steiner turning on Petey Williams

Kip turning on BG James

Nash turning on Joe

Sting's character change

Awesome Kong beating up the public/ Taylor Wilde's debut

Foley debut

Foley becoming major shareholder in company

AJ Styles/Joe/MEM respect angle

Eric Young becoming Super Eric

Super Justice Friends created

[luckysalt]

Chris Jericho still around? He was one my faves for ages. Always thought he deserved to be top guy in the company but would always get f*cked over.

[luckysalt]

Ross you get 3 picks for each catagory

[luckysalt]

PM

do yourself a favour put Bravo on and watch TNA right now

[luckysalt]

So I'll post 5 times in a row in here then

Apparently Orton has been offered a ten year deal by the WWE

Hmm anyone think that they're taking TNA very seriously as competition now then, next year is a very important year for both promotions

I see that its been leaked that at TNA's PPV in January it will be Mick Foley v Kurt Angle, thats a damn fine way to start the year

[Uncle Liam]

So I'll post 5 times in a row in here then

Apparently Orton has been offered a ten year deal by the WWE

Hmm anyone think that they're taking TNA very seriously as competition now then, next year is a very important year for both promotions

I see that its been leaked that at TNA's PPV in January it will be Mick Foley v Kurt Angle, thats a damn fine way to start the year

[luckysalt]

Will it? i thought it was Angle v Jarrett again? Thats probably the end of Foley in TNA then, unless he re signs.

Yeah, just a reminder to everyone voting to cast three votes each for the awards. Your first choice gets 3 points, 2nd gets 2 and 3rd gets 1. The reason I;m doing that is because i dont anticipate a load of people voting so there will probably be a lot of ties, and this should eliminate that.

Anyone who votes is eligible to enter a draw to get one of my four pw torrents invites that I have.

[Uncle Liam]

I think Foley will be part of TNA for a long time to come yet

and I can see Jarrett turning on Foley and becoming MEM, and Foley leading the Front Line against them, thats how I see it panning out anyway

[luckysalt]

Isn't it strange that Vince Russo is behind both...

[Uncle Liam]

Isn't it strange that Vince Russo is behind both...