scottish fitba'

[Snufflebutt]

it's daft to compare figures from the 60's to the 00's anyway cos it's two different worlds we live in. both the real one and the football one.

i'd like to see the official figures of the 67 season though cos i highly doubt that the greatest team celtic has ever put out was averaging 30,000. especially when the european and cup final attendances were vastly higher. league cup too.

[ampersand]

rangers game off due to significant water damage to ibrox. yaas!

we've got stenhousemuir who've got a plastic pitch so we should be fine.

[Snufflebutt]

rangers game off due to significant water damage to ibrox. yaas!

we've got stenhousemuir who've got a plastic pitch so we should be fine.

[ampersand]

I live a 20 minute walk from Ibrox and theres hardly been much rain. What was that, Bain, about the poor facilities at other clubs? At least we can put games on after a small shower.....

Edited December 16, 2010 by ampersand

[Paul ™]

It's a pipe issue apparently, not melting snow.. probably frozen pipes.

[rexclark]

Not much more I can add to the debate about league reconstruction but I have to say i'm dead against a ten team league. I can't see there being much change at all if there has to be an 11-1 majority, no way will eleven clubs agree on anything.

[Kowalski]

If anyone wants to voice their opinion on league reconstruction:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/scottishfootball

[ampersand]

If anyone wants to voice their opinion on league reconstruction:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/scottishfootball

[G-Stud]

Rangers draw Sporting Lisbon in the Europa League.

[Paul ™]

Not a bad draw

[ampersand]

i want rangers to do well in europe but i can't stand the thought of them in dublin. especially after manchester.

bbc and sky have called our game off, despite both team sites saying there's a pitch inspection at 11am. fingers crossed stenhousemuir are more professional than rangers!

[rexclark]

Quite a decent draw for Rangers and they've did well against Lisbon in the past.

If anyone wants to voice their opinion on league reconstruction:

http://www.surveymon...cottishfootball

[ampersand]

4 spl games off but our diddy fixture still stands a chance. bloody amateurs at rangers, hamilton, aberdeen and st johnstone

Edited December 18, 2010 by ampersand

[Paul ™]

4 spl games off but our diddy fixture still stands a chance. bloody amateurs at rangers, hamilton, aberdeen and st johnstone

[ampersand]

[Paul ™]

stenhousemuir are a diddy team. they're allowed games off due to snow

[ampersand]

Comical really considering the amount of games that have been called off at Almondvale in recent years

Edited December 18, 2010 by ampersand

[Paul ™]

Glad the Celtic game is off, didn't want them taking an advantage at the top of the league.. though we seem to have 3 away games in a row and they have 3 home games in a row before the OF game on the 2nd Jan.. it's a conspiracy

[Snufflebutt]

Glad the Celtic game is off, didn't want them taking an advantage at the top of the league.. though we seem to have 3 away games in a row and they have 3 home games in a row before the OF game on the 2nd Jan.. it's a conspiracy

[ampersand]

hearts eqaualised against inverness. into this pish

i'm supporting hearts in the spl this year. hope they can keep the pressure on.

[minute5072]

hearts eqaualised against inverness. into this pish

i'm supporting hearts in the spl this year. hope they can keep the pressure on.

[ampersand]

Wondered how long it would take you to switch teams

[Snufflebutt]

That McLeish review things is a load of shit, was just reading through it there 'The SPL is the only split league system in Europe' - not even close to being correct - Wales, Begium and Cyprus to name 3 have adopted split leagues (al after the SPL, and using it as an example). But at least a review has been conducted into the Scottish Football Crisis, even if it is wrong!!!! ha!

[Kowalski]

There's a Q&A with the SPL's marketing and communications manager in today's SOS:

Q: All available evidence suggests supporters favoured an enlarged top tier with teams playing each other only twice a season. Two leagues of ten and teams playing each other four times runs completely contrary to that. Why is this? Why not 14, 16 or even 18?

A: The 14-team set-up required a six-eight or eight-six split to avoid too many games. It retained the number of 'big' games attractive to broadcasters and removed any fixtures imbalance, but in the eight-six split it could have meant the seventh, eighth and ninth placed teams having nothing to play for across their remaining 14 games.

An eight-six split would have avoided this but it would have meant 40 league games for the top clubs. The fixture card is already extremely congested. With the possibility of a winter break, as well as the prospect of Scottish teams remaining in European competition post-Christmas, further fixtures for the top clubs simply cannot be accommodated within the season.

The 16-team set-up is what a lot of supporters say they want but there would be four fewer home game per season for each club, that is, a pro rata reduction of 20 per cent of each club's gate income. All teams would play Celtic and Rangers only once at home each season, leading to a further reduction in gate income.

The current number of 'big' games for broadcasting would be much reduced - leading to a negative impact on the value of the league's media deals. An 18-team is also what some supporters say they would like to see.

But, again, there would be significantly reduced revenues from a number of income streams and all the downsides of the 16-team set-up magnified.

The analysis we have carried out on the various models we believe demonstrates unequivocally that a 16 or 18-team league is utterly unworkable and that a 14-team league is not the answer either. A ten-team league is the only way that substantial funding can be pushed down to the second tier at the same time as protecting the revenues of the top tier. A ten-team league is also consistent with Henry McLeish's recommendations regarding the best playing the best.

[Paul ™]

Just LOL