girly question

[mandypants]

I think we're falling into the same old stereotypical attitudes again here folks. It might surprise you but some women DO have sex for fun, and they're not insecure or needy at all! Wow, what a revelation

When we hear about guys sleeping around, why are the same assumptions not made?

[travelling mr pastry]

I think we're falling into the same old stereotypical attitudes again here folks. It might surprise you but some women DO have sex for fun, and they're not insecure or needy at all! Wow, what a revelation

When we hear about guys sleeping around, why are the same assumptions not made?

[MrMac]

When we hear about guys sleeping around, why are the same assumptions not made?

[Badlands]

What does this have to do with the monorail?

[Randy Pan]

it suggests an ongoing pattern of behaviour and the fact that she is trying to relate it to us by talking about the short time she spent at glastonbury seems in my mind to be an attempt to limit it to herself and that speaks to insecurity, i could be wrong but from knowing how girls like this are i doubt it. stop fishing for something to get your che t-shirt in a twist about.

[travelling mr pastry]

No Che t-shirt to twist I'm afraid. I just don't see how the 'ongoing pattern of behaviour' would be a problem either. Notwithstanding your own [judgement free] assertions that it's all because she is insecure and needs absolution of course.

[llcoolphil]

Blimey there's some judgement of other people's lives in this thread

To the OP - do what you want and bollox to what anyone thinks

[Randy Pan]

i think both men and women who throw themselves on other people are trying to compensate for some gaping hole in their lives

[travelling mr pastry]

Blimey there's some judgement of other people's lives in this thread

To the OP - do what you want and bollox to what anyone thinks

[travelling mr pastry]

That's probably because you're not judgemental.

Fact is though, she asked a question, and YOU added the bit about insecurity. Again, because you're not judgemental.

Because blokes don't tend to feel guilty after such behaviour. Why? Well, they are not subjected to comments such as "slag, have some respect for yourself", or accused of only doing it because they are insecure and needy. Such comments are just tools of an outdated ideology designed to limit female sexuality because insecure dickheads are afraid of it.

[Randy Pan]

either way the OP's post is clearly seeking vindication and if you put everything together it tells you alot about how she feels.

[llcoolphil]

what the f**k did the girl want if not judgement. she posted a message saying "hi i f**ked afew people at glastonbury and my friend thinks im a skank, whats your opinion" if she gets judged for anything its totally her fault.

[Randy Pan]

WHERE DID I CALL HER A SLAG?

[MrMac]

Ok,

so I'm twenty and last year I went to Glastonbury and I was single. Anyway the point is my friend said it was "abnormal" that I had sex three times at Glastonbury, and she thinks I was ott, but I was single and having fun, so this is a question for GIRLS not all you "players" , how many times do you think is normal "to do it" and how many times was your average, again I'm not looking for a load of guys to tell me they did it 20 times.

thanks,

X

[travelling mr pastry]

And she feels bad because she should? Or because she's learnt to as a result of the judgement of others placing negative values on behaviours that we are primed to enjoy and shouldn't actually feel any shame about indulging in?

[travelling mr pastry]

You didn't. That Walter whatsisname divvy did. Calm down - no need to get your t-shirt in a twist. You just added rubbish about her feeling insecure.

[llcoolphil]

people who put it about often use it as a crutch.

[llcoolphil]

i and many others added reasonable comments about her probably being insecure.

[MrMac]

i said and you quoted me saying that i beleived both men and women who are promiscuous are often using it to fill a hole (no pun intended) in their lives. you then went on to imply i was trying to limit female sexuality because i am insecure about it. how does that work? get of your idealistic soapbox and face the facts, people who put it about often use it as a crutch.

[travelling mr pastry]

We all need crutches at some point of our life - show me the person who says they've never felt insecure and I'll show you a liar. Do we dismiss all crutches - or just the ones that dont fit with our own view of the world? Or - and here's a thought - do we acknowledge that we all need a crutch at some point and, hey you know what, there isn't anything wrong with that?

[Randy Pan]

i said and you quoted me saying that i beleived both men and women who are promiscuous are often using it to fill a hole (no pun intended) in their lives. you then went on to imply i was trying to limit female sexuality because i am insecure about it. how does that work? get of your idealistic soapbox and face the facts, people who put it about often use it as a crutch.

[travelling mr pastry]

To be fair you didn't didn't appear to have much room for doubt before. You said "i think both men and women who throw themselves on other people are trying to compensate for some gaping hole in their lives", " this girl is flaunting her insecurity on a message board" and " i just know how girls who put it about are".

I'm quite happy to accept that there's a correllation between promiscuity and insecurity, but not every promiscuous person is insecure and vice versa - you'd agree with that wouldn't you?

[Mr Ploppy]

Blood, sweat and tears,

Really don't matter,

Just the things that you do,

In this (your) garden

[Randy Pan]

if people who wish to turn this into an argument with me would please refer back to the first post i made in this thread, all i was saying was that the fact that she f**ked 3 guys and then posted about it a year later and that it seemed to me she was insecure and that it might be better to do something about that rather than trying to get into ridiculously subjective debate over the internet about what the correct number of people to f**k at a festival is.

[travelling mr pastry]

I was making a comment in a broader context - trying to explain why women sometimes feel more guilty than men and find themselves questioning their behaviour to a larger extent, rather than shrugging my shoulders and saying "she's just insecure".

Now stop throwing up value-laden comments about people you don't know and face the facts yourself - people f**k because they like to. Evolution has primed us to enjoy it and it is one of the most fundamental aspects of our existence and motivators for our actions. We then get all screwed up over it because society is full of slow sperms that somehow made it who think that they need to sneer at and be coy about such behaviour. There's really no need.