Tents?

[venuss]

2007 Glasto

my Quechua 2 Second was large enough for me and did not leak ... and it rained that year!

quick + easy to put up and take down ... even I could manage that

2008 Glasto + Cornwall

I took a three man eurohike

took ages to put up and bl%dy ages to take down ... so much so that I was going to leave it in a pile at the end of the Cornwall trip because I hated it

But having the extra room was great

This year I have to decide:

1) Quechua: small but easy to put up + take down

2) Eurohike: larger but a pain to put up + take down

The only thing that I do want in my tent that I don't have is a heater .... because I am soooo cold at night + when I wake up in the morning

Edited March 18, 2009 by venuss

[russycarps]

so is the quechua 2 Seconds XL II better than the Vango Dart 200 Tent DS?

which shall I purchase?

[venuss]

just check if the Vango Dart 200 is a single skin, i think it is ... but check

so is the quechua 2 Seconds XL II better than the Vango Dart 200 Tent DS?

which shall I purchase?

[Glitter+Vodka]

Sorry to hijack ur thread Jackman but didnt wanna start another thread about tents...

I found a tent i like, Its a Gelert Rocky, and its a real pretty raspberry colour.... but someone said its no good coz of the 1500HH, but 2 other ppl said 1500 is fine...heres the features, can i have opinions please coz i aint got a scooby about tents and stuff! its 29.95.

•Fabric Outer: 190T Polyester With Waterproof PU Coating

•Fabric Inner: 190T Breathable Polyester

•Groundsheet: Polyethylene

•Dimensions Outer: L285 x W180 x H120 cm

•Dimensions Inner: L210 x W180 x H115 cm

•Poles: 2 x 8.5 mm Fibreglass, 1 x 7.9 mm Fibreglass

•Colour: Red / Excalibur Grey or Olive or Raspberry Sorbet / Iced Pearl

•Pitch: Inner First

•Taped Seams: Yes

•HH: 1500 mm

•Weight: 4.2kg

•Case Size: 59 x 15 x 15 cm

Edited March 19, 2009 by Glitter+Vodka

[daisylane]

I found a tent i like, Its a Gelert Rocky, and its a real pretty raspberry colour.... but someone said its no good coz of the 1500HH, but 2 other ppl said 1500 is fine...heres the features, can i have opinions please coz i aint got a scooby about tents and stuff! its 29.95.

Edited March 19, 2009 by daisylane

[Chocscoffer]

Glitter & Vodka - Just to be safe you should buy some seam sealer from Millets, I have this on my Gelert Tornado. This will waterproof them. Though, it won't stop them falling to bits if it is shoddily made! I've always had Gelert Tents and they have never let me down (I have a Quechua 2 second aswell but that for one night camping).

[Glitter+Vodka]

thanks daisylane and chocscoffer

[Jackman]

Our current sample tent is made in the following way.

Each stitch is heat seamed, this avoids any leaks. Many company's groundsheets is made from PE (polyethylene). With the use of PE in the ground tent, it cannot use the heat seamed process between groundsheet and the rest of the tent fabric. It is my understanding that for this reason, many company's groundsheets will be leak. Our ground sheet is made from 210Deniers (Deniers being a unit of measurement of linear density of textile fiber mass), "oxford polyester" blend. This is a waterproof version of the regular polyeaster material that you will find on the main body of the tent.

I have tested the "oxford polyester" ground sheet with a bottle of water and it's amazing how water tight it is, as much as I tried I couldn't get the water to seep through.

Correct me if I am wrong, but breathability is paramount and the fact that these tents need to breathe (to give us oxygen, I guess), this is the reason for these condensation and rain trickles in the tent.

Edited March 19, 2009 by Jackman

[russycarps]

Our current sample tent is made in the following way.

Each stitch is heat seamed, this avoids any leaks. Many company's groundsheets is made from PE (polyethylene). With the use of PE in the ground tent, it cannot use the heat seamed process between groundsheet and the rest of the tent fabric. It is my understanding that for this reason, many company's groundsheets will be leak. Our ground sheet is made from 210Deniers (Deniers being a unit of measurement of linear density of textile fiber mass), "oxford polyester" blend. This is a waterproof version of the regular polyeaster material that you will find on the main body of the tent.

I have tested the "oxford polyester" ground sheet with a bottle of water and it's amazing how water tight it is, as much as I tried I couldn't get the water to seep through.

Correct me if I am wrong, but breathability is paramount and the fact that these tents need to breathe (to give us oxygen, I guess), this is the reason for these condensation and rain trickles in the tent.

[r0cky]

Sorry to hijack ur thread Jackman but didnt wanna start another thread about tents...

I found a tent i like, Its a Gelert Rocky, and its a real pretty raspberry colour.... but someone said its no good coz of the 1500HH, but 2 other ppl said 1500 is fine...heres the features, can i have opinions please coz i aint got a scooby about tents and stuff! its 29.95.

Edited March 19, 2009 by r0cky

[r0cky]

Certainly 2 or 3 person double skinned, silver outer (reflects heat) Igloo that pitches the outside first could be worth my investment.

[Jackman]

Hi Russycarps. We will do rigeous testing once we have decided on the supplier and materials for our final development proof sample. I was just checking the fabric of our first sample.

it sounds to me like your waterproof testing is nowhere near rigorous enough. The large tent companies have vast weather simulation machines and test them relentlessly for hours and hours.

I am not certain your bottle of water will produce quite so reliable results.

[Jackman]

Hi R0cky,

how much did you pay for the Halfords tent, what are the specs and what problems do you have?

I wouldn't worry about buying a brand name tent with 1500mm. You can always buy some Fabsil. Even my cheap rubbish no-name 1500mm tent was fine after Fabsil.

Note, I still have a Halfords tent which is rated at 1500mm, it has so many faults I don't know where to begin though.

[theleedslads]

You cant go wrong with the quechua tents.

I have a 3 or 4 man one Air Quecha pop up tent, cost me about £80 3 years ago, and has done me through.....

8 Festivals and around 10 camping trips.

It has never leaked, ripped or anything, and is dead easy to put up/ take down.

This year im buying a quechua BASE tent which acts as kind of an extender tent, to go with my quechua tent ive been using for the past 3 years (see link)

http://seconds.quechua.com/index.php5?lg=E...=0#/produit/14/

I know i can rely on these tents

[r0cky]

how much did you pay for the Halfords tent, what are the specs and what problems do you have?

[russycarps]

Hi Russycarps. We will do rigeous testing once we have decided on the supplier and materials for our final development proof sample. I was just checking the fabric of our first sample.

[Jackman]

No, no - i know you weren't, seriously and I hope my reply didn't come across that I was offended. It was a good point! Thanks for the help.

jackman - please note I was not criticising you, just offering my opinion. Hope I didnt offend.

[davelucs]

had one of these before, and just got a new one. good price,good quality and good size.

http://www.millets.co.uk/product/094419.html

[mouth]

also with it being a festival you coluld look into black out lining. ministry of sound did a tent with that last year. I would happily pay well over £50 probably more like 100 for a double skinned, waterproof tent with black out lining.

[HurrahBrother]

just check if the Vango Dart 200 is a single skin, i think it is ... but check

[Kyelo]

Doesn't everyone love LED lights!

Is this a white LED inside the tent for interior lighting, or flashing lights on the outside to find your tent?

Flashing lights, keyfob operated, to activate the beacon when you need it?

[incident]

I've seen them but why do you need black out lining, be it for a festival tent or normal tent?

[wacko]

this thread has resulted in me spending half an hour browsing tents and prices for this year. think im going to go for a vango dart ds. Throw it up in under a minute and relax as my mates struggle with their non pop up tents.

[HurrahBrother]

I was wondering that - my assumption (albeit based only on a vague memory of science lessons at school) is that in sunlight a black tent would heat up quicker than a lighter colour, which wouldn't be a desirable quality at all.

[Funkfarley]

I was wondering that - my assumption (albeit based only on a vague memory of science lessons at school) is that in sunlight a black tent would heat up quicker than a lighter colour, which wouldn't be a desirable quality at all.