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Hi everyone,

I know there are a few people who use these forums who are well read when it comes to philosophy, so I was wondering if someone could help me. I'm trying to get hold of a reputable source which claims it is possible to do something in a way that is ideology free. I know many philosophers are concerned with the effects of ideology and the way in which it contstructs experience, but are there any who say it is possible to do something that isn't ideologically driven? I've done all the standard searches; google scholar, search facilities within specific journals etc, but kind find anything.

I'd really appreciate any help,

Thanks.

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Hi everyone,

I know there are a few people who use these forums who are well read when it comes to philosophy, so I was wondering if someone could help me. I'm trying to get hold of a reputable source which claims it is possible to do something in a way that is ideology free. I know many philosophers are concerned with the effects of ideology and the way in which it contstructs experience, but are there any who say it is possible to do something that isn't ideologically driven? I've done all the standard searches; google scholar, search facilities within specific journals etc, but kind find anything.

I'd really appreciate any help,

Thanks.

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Worm - thanks for your insights! I'm checking out the link now...

I'll elucidate a little. I'm trying to develop an arguement that it's possible to develop policy in an apolitical way. So I thought of using the philosophy stuff as back ground to this claim.

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I'm trying to develop an arguement that it's possible to develop policy in an apolitical way.

then don't bother to waste your time. It can't be done.

Politics is simply a view of which is the better way to go about achieving something. As soon as you reach a view about anything, it cannot be apolitical.

The smart way to have approached this would have been to consider the idea from the bottom up and not the top down. But doing things in the wrong manner seems to be a regular flaw with academic philosophy, which only ever results in skewing the facts of reality to try and make the reality fit something it can never fit. ;)

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You may have missed this grumpyhack.....

Worm - thanks for your insights! I'm checking out the link now...

I'll elucidate a little. I'm trying to develop an arguement that it's possible to develop policy in an apolitical way. So I thought of using the philosophy stuff as back ground to this claim.

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To be ideology-free is also an ideology though, innit?

Yup. The whole idea of what the OP posted he wanted to do is a logical impossibility.

(well, it is unless he has a made-up dictionary ... so, cue worm :P).

As I said, if he'd approached things in the opposite direction, then he'd have (I hope) realised that impossibility - rather than starting down the clearly useless path that a philosophical approach took him along. ;)

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You can begin (in fact you can only begin) from a position that is free from ideology. But once you write this up, it becomes ideologically bound.

That's not what I was getting at.

If he'd paid a little more attention to the words he was using to define what he was trying to achieve, then before he gets onto thinking about the deep and meaningful 'is it possible....?', those very words he used would have made clear to him that it wasn't by the fact of their definitions.

It was a case of getting ahead of himself, of thinking forwards onto that 'is it possible...?' to try and find an answer, before he'd actually considered what the question asked actually meant.

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If he'd paid a little more attention to the words he was using to define what he was trying to achieve, then before he gets onto thinking about the deep and meaningful 'is it possible....?', those very words he used would have made clear to him that it wasn't by the fact of their definitions.

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