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Yeah, that type of booking does work too. Babymetal were unkown to the West until Sonisphere booked them to open the mainstage and a few short years later they ended up playing Wembley. It's not even as if Download are booking at least Brixton sized acts on the mainstage, alot of times it's these bands that have been around for years and look out of place on a big stage with no hope of ever moving up the line up.

Jinjer is another one of those hot new acts where instead of Download putting them on low mainestage so people can check out this new band people are talking about they will stick them on the tiny tent when they are up against the bigger names so no one will see them.

You're a lucky bastard, I've just seen the setlist.

It's very annoying only a handful of people are listing tixs on twickets for tonight and they get sold instantly and apparently Ticketmaster have turned off the resale option on the tickets now so it looks like I won't be going tonight. 😞 Thanks for that. I was planning on going to Charlestown already and it was lovely. 🙂 I managed to get a good seat at the pub overlooking the harbour and spent a few hours drinking and admiring the view. I was gonna go to the Shipwreck Museum too but when we got there a bunch of kids were going in as part of a school trip so we skipped it to avoid them. I'm definitely keeping an eye on what Eden Sessions are happening next year for another weekend away even if it's not a must see band like NIN.

I would post this in the gig section of Glasto chat but I can't see many people there being interested in it. There are £4.95 tickets to see Mushroomhead on the link below. If you squint your eyes it's just like seeing Slipknot! 😜 https://sable.madmimi.com/c/19285?id=263225465.64411.1.f2dd03c6cb558b5b12a925e339842dc6

Maybe they are expecting to cross over more with metal fans after Download. I’m surprised Architects are willing to sub as they are a decent sized act.

Yep, I’ve already set up my Twickets alert and I had a look on ticketmaster for anyone is reselling. I’m hoping for some people to cancel because of the train strikes but last night I was talking to people from who came Jersey, Norway and Australia so it looks like a lot of people aren’t letting travelling put them off.

Fucking hell they were great last night! The set list was not as good as Friday’s but they were so good it didn’t matter. Yves was pretty good too. Eden Project makes for an awesome venue, drinks and toilets are never that long, it looks amazing and the slope is good for everyone having a good view. Getting there turned into a nightmare as I couldn’t get a taxi so we had to walk 2 miles in the hard pissing down rain on country roads with no pavement. It was so worth it though! Hopefully I can find someone selling a tix for the London show next week so I can watch them again.

The it’s sold out metric doesn’t really apply to Download. Download rarely if ever sells out even with stadium headliners. Also the not sold out analysis is so boring anyway, it treats bands that have sold 98% of the venues tickets as the same as ones that has sold 21% as equals failures as it’s binary rather than allowing for shades of grey.

Are you a local then? I’m having a long weekend away in St Austell to see NIN plus the beach & Eden Project so I could do with some tips on things to do in the area if you're happy to give any.

I mean Slipknot and KoRn at this point are dad rock but how come we are giving the even older Metallica a pass? 😜

I'm seeing them tonight so I had a looks at last night's set list figuring with the way he likes to change up the set list if he didn't play something last night then there's a good chance he will play it tonight. However fuck me last's night's setlist was so good with Wish, Closer, March Of The Pigs, Gave Up, The Perfect Drug, Heresy, Shit Mirror, Love Is Not Enough, Down In It, Copy Of A etc so that's a massive chunk of my favourites which sods law means he's not playing it tonight. Touchwood that means he's playing All The Love In The World, Terrible Lie, Survivalism, Ruiner, Echoplex, Right Where It Belongs, Last, Discipline and the super rare We're In This Together!

Nah, Turnstile are back touring America after APE. Idles would have the been exact type of act R&L would book and become synonymous with but as they aren’t a sound cloud rapper they can’t be arsed booking them now.

They did a few in America with Ozzfest.

R&L despite being a teen pop festival where the line up looks like they have thrown some kind of 20 sided D&D dice to book it are good at that. If there's someone new and being talked about then they chuck them early on the mainstage plus new bands don't have a robust catalogue so them playing for 30-45 mins actually works for them unlike giving Bury Tomorrow a 30min slot. But Download is just shit at it largely due to them not having their finger to the pulse of the UK rock scene in general. There's definitely a need for a day fest somewhere in this country. There were so many big bands touring Europe but decided not to play the UK this year they could have chucked something on at the last minute. Something after the schools have closed in late Jul/Aug away from Download so they can pick up other bands touring Europe they wouldn't have and not compete with them. Maybe APE will start booking heavier acts as they have tried before with Bring Me, jumped on Turnstile and Idles who I would have pegged as R&L must haves this year (especially as they would have fit under Rage) and they almost got NIN until Trent had another kid.

You're trying to make it sound like they highbrow cerebral thrillers, Tarantino makes fun live action cartoons but with swearing and blood.

Sure, Tarantino only gets a few minor details in his films wrong like Sharon doesn't die and Hitler is murdered in the cinema. lol

Nickelback are the bigger band though. Slipknot wish they could support them on tour!

I don't really care about the misogyny issue myself but considering Tarantino isn't trying to stick with what actually happened I'm not sure thats's really a justifaction.

It's okay as Deep Purple, The Who and Nickleback are gonna headline in 2024! Wooo!

At R&L one headlines at Reading and the other at Leeds. At others fests it's just a way to dress up the sub as being bigger than just a sub like when I saw The Black Keys and Prodigy co-headline at IOW or The Cult & Alice Cooper who did it as a tour. I have been seen a few bands like Thrice & Refused rotate who's on last depending on who's the bigger act in that specific country. They will normally have the same set length though. Every now and then you will see a headliner but then the band under them is a co-headliner despite the other band not having the tag. lol

I mean Download wants to kill off rock too. They only just begrudging accept nu-metal as young people's music but anything newer muse die! Allegedly whenever Copping gets a Foo Fighters type act to headlined in the past he gets burned a lot as they change their mind (which says more about Download's operation/admin side that they can't get these acts tied down imo) which is why he started leaning into the likes of KISS or Def Leppard as it's a big payday to them so they won't complain or change their mind. You can see that shift between the first 10 years and the last 10 years, they had the bulls to book Limp Bizkit as a headliner the first year. Me playing fantasy booker I'd just split the days into old skool/straight rock regardless of age so acts like Iron Maiden, Alice Cooper, Anthrax, Greta Van Fleet, Ghost etc. Then a day of more contemporary alt rock like Green Day, Idles, Slaves, Placebo, Muse etc the kind of stuff that use to get booked a lot at R&L. With the third day of the loud heavy shit like Slipknot, Parkway Drive, Gojira, Machine Head, KoRn etc. Mix up the second stage so it's a bit of everything and don't be scared to put upcoming bands on the mainstage like Code Orange are/were white hot so sticking them on low mainstage builds them up more and will have people curious enough to check them out when there's less notable names on in the day unlike sticking them to the smallest stage when the big names are on as no one checks them out. It's mental Bring Me have played 5 times but only once on the mainstage!

I like your optimism even however their first UK gig will be Edinburgh which hasn't sold out as lickity split as some would have thought, they were hated on announcement by the tweens at R&L but still got tixs for Arctic Monkees & Dave plus the day is horribly booked so alot of people who want to see Rage are put off by shit like Willow Smith or Maneskin. There's multiple people in this forum who want to see Rage but aren't willing to deal with R&L to do it. Thing is Biffy is a rock band at a rock festival. Rage is a rock band at a teen pop festival.

In two months time that will be Rage at Reading!

Sounds cool but it sucks there's no full stage production. My missus has never seen them before and I've been bigging them up with talk of rotting animals on a massive screen and sparkly laser lights.