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46 minutes ago, Chawk said:
I'm here if you need to talk, Will.
Omg hahahaha
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14 minutes ago, mjsell said:
Ha yeah I was joking around because you compared Justice to LCD saying they got a tiny crowd, then went on to say that more people are saying they will be seeing Justice (who are also playing a smaller stage). All equals big crowd to me.
I definitely think the competition will play a big factor is creating that big crowd. Too many acts that have a big crossover of fans.
Justice will be the only headliner that all of our 25 strong group will be attending. There's one still adamant he's going to see Ed but I guarantee he'all change his tune.
Ah sorry I thought you were saying there couldn't be more people wanting to see Justice than LCD because they're on a smaller stage
Nah my point about more people saying Justice than LCD (proportionally) was a caveat to my original point, and saying that they probably won't do as badly as LCD, but the real world crowd size still won't reflect their popularity on here.
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Just now, Kinkyinuit said:
I think with last year, it was a case of people not wanting to have to trudge through the mud again. Coldplay are dependable, if anything and will put on a (bland, in my opinion) show. It's sort of the same with Ed Sheeran, the mass appeal of him will/should draw the largest crowd.
I can't see Justice pulling in the same amount as Chic did. That was something else, in the top 5 moments of Glasto ever for me.
But even if it isn't an epic turnout, those who will be there, will be raving their bloody socks off
Nah Coldplay would have got a monster crowd regardless of the weather. They're probably the biggest band in the world.
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6 minutes ago, mjsell said:
So your telling me that more people are saying Justice who are playing West Holts, than LCD who played Other. Now I'm no mathematician but there's a flaw in your conclusion.
(I actually agree with you to a point btw, I'm feeling busy but manageable)
Yeah. Almost everyone in that "your 2017 headliners" thread or whatever it's called are saying Justice for Sunday. Last year there were quite a lot of people on here seeing EWF and even a fair few seeing Coldplay despite their overall reputation on here.
LCD's crowd probably would have fit in the WH field anyway from what has been said on here. No idea myself as I was fairly near the front.
Edit: Just checked that thread and more people have said they're seeing Justice than Radiohead
So yeah I reckon proportionally there's probably also more people saying Justice than said LCD last year.
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10 minutes ago, balti-pie said:
I'm gong to be part of a group of about 14, and nobody is planning on watching Ed Sheeran - but it will in all likelihood be the busiest performance of the weekend. It confuses the hell out of me - had the same conversation last year about Coldplay again on the Sunday night, and again no one interested out of about ten people, yet it was rammed by the looks of the footage. . . .
Id far rather be at a quieter stage though to be honest, a pyramid field when it's completely packed isn't really that nice a place to be. Too big, too busy, too much of a bloody headache to get away from.
Yeah none of my group will be seeing Ed Sheeran but we all have similar music tastes and we'll all be at Justice or BBK. Similarly all of my group saw LCD Soundsystem last year but the majority of people I met over the weekend were well up for Coldplay on the Sunday night.
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Was planning on seeing Katy Perry and having a drunken laugh to some good tunes. Never really been interested in Oasis/Liam Gallagher but if he's playing the likes of Slide Away then hmm, might check him out (if he is that Other Stage TBA).
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Yeah this isn't a lot different to how a shitload of people on here were going to LCD Soundsystem last year and they ended up drawing a tiny crowd.
Proportionally there's probably more on here saying they'll be at Justice than there were saying they'd be at LCD, but in the real world Justice still won't have a monstrous crowd. Ed Sheeran will have a monstrous crowd.
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1 minute ago, simoneng_1983 said:
You've missed two people out who posted after me.
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Just now, Calvin Klein said:
No The National?
They're not headlining a stage...? Or am I missing a joke or something here?
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Radiohead - 91 (+5)
Foo Fighters - 46
Major Lazer - 43
Alt-J - 48
Boy Better Know - 50
Dizzee Rascal - 49
The Jacksons - 57
Justice - 70
Annie Mac - 27
Phoenix - 52
Pablo Honey - 50
Metronomy - 55
The Flaming Lips - 56
Warpaint - 50
Kano - 50
Status Quo - 45
Hothouse Flowers - 50
Ani Difranco - 50
The Mavericks - 45
The Dhol Foundation - 52
Hackney Colliery Band - 52
Billy Bragg - 50
Alison Moyet - 50
Dreadzone - 50
Nines - 50
Fatboy Slim - 52
Kraak And Smaak - 55Good luck to those of you trying to keep it from going tits up. Ive tried in the past and it's baffling how people can struggle so much with a hurt/heal game. I think it was Guy last year who kept adding the previous person's points on for a second time and it almost caused me to jump off a building.
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Not Radiohead fans they're all stinky little weirdos.
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15 hours ago, Bonaneas said:
The Sex of the artist has come into it because of hundreds of media reports, interviews with EE herself, etc etc bemoaning the under representation of female acts at the festival. So they've plugged that by importing more female pop acts and bumping them up the bill, which was the original bloody point of the thread and my post, NOT stating that she didn't deserve to be there full stop (though I do believe that ALL pop acts can fuck the fuck off, they have plenty of avenues for exposure so don't 'need' Glasto). I used one example, sande being above courteeners, at Glastonbury, which is just plain wrong & weird.
They literally havent plugged the gap by bumping female acts up the bill. In fact the biggest female act on the bill is lower than we'd have all expected before the first poster drop. Acts like Emeli Sandé and Lorde play every single year (Ellie Goulding and Lana Del Rey subbed other and played 4th down Pyramid in 2014, Paloma Faith 3rd down Pyramid in 2015, Ellie Goulding and Jess Glynne 3rd and 4th down Pyramid in 2016) and they're both in positions you'd expect based on their size. So they're not there to plug gaps, and they haven't been bumped up the bill. I have no idea where you've got this idea from but it's incorrect.
The original point of the thread was not about female acts plugging the gap and being bumped up the bill. It was about weird placements in general, of which there are a few, but none of them are because the act is female.
Nothing wrong or weird about Emeli Sandé being above the Courteeners. She's the more popular act, although having just read in another thread that you're from the Manchester area I'm not surprised you think they're bigger than they are. Outside of the North West of England they're an irrelevant O2 Academy band on a level with the likes of HAIM, Bombay Bicycle Club and Two Door Cinema Club.
Edit: Oh yeah and The Courteeners are fucking abysmal imo and if it were based on my tastes they'd be nowhere near the line-up, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be there.
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3 minutes ago, Bonaneas said:
I only mentioned one 'weird placing' so wind your neck in. I'd gladly remove each & every pop tastic act from the line up, male or female.
There's plenty of 'credible' alternative female bands and acts out there. Book them, get them on tv to inspire younger females to pick up a guitar or start singing or playing a piano or anything which is organic and not bland cheesy pop.
"Pop music has just as much of a right to be there as alternative music." Oh Really? Do you know anything about the history of the festival? Obviously not. Who mentioned rights? It's about taste, and keeping with the alternative history of the festival not who shifts the most radio friendly units. You'll see all these pop acts on the V line up and (rightly) slag that festival off but it's okay that they're on at the farm and pushing bands down or off the bill.
Yeah but you inferred that she's only there because she's female.
"There's plenty of 'credible' alternative female bands and acts out there. Book them, get them on tv to inspire younger females to pick up a guitar or start singing or playing a piano or anything which is organic and not bland cheesy pop". The exact same could be said about males; why has the sex of the artists even come into this? Why aren't you saying the same things in response to them booking Major Lazer or Stormzy? Emeli Sandé literally plays the piano anyway.
And that bold bit... The Eavii are the ones booking these pop acts. Do they also have no idea about the history of Glasto? V Festival is a pop festival, and it books pop acts as I'd expect it to. I wouldn't go there myself but those acts have a right to be there and it's what their audience want to see. It's also what a lot of the Glastonbury audience want to see. I don't like most of them and won't go to see them, but Emeli Sandé has just as much of a right to be there as the acts I like.
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8 hours ago, Bonaneas said:
The odd couple each year for novelty and the kids down the front at the Pyramid on a Saturday afternoon, but nowhere near to the extent it is this year. Even the headliner is a pop act (Sheeran.)
Is it a sign of the decline & death of guitar / alternative / indie / rock music or just the way the festival is going, less alt and more & more mainstream?
If they're going to shoe horn female acts in at least make sure it's female acts with credibility in line with the festivals 'alternative' history & ethos. Plenty of 'girls who play guitars' out there. Daughter & Savages were real highlights last year. Still to see honeyblood at the festival. Nadia Shah deserves a better billing than leftfield too.
Exactly. There are pop acts all over the line-up, of both sexes, so why is Emeli Sandé only there due to being female? They've always had acts like that. Ellie Goulding played the same slot 3 years ago. The fact she's female doesn't come into it at all, anyway. George Ezra is playing a similar slot two days before, although I guess he plays a guitar and is male so he isn't there as a novelty.
Pop music has just as much of a right to be there as alternative music.
And yeah, Savages and Daughter are better than Emeli Sandé. But at the same time, Ezra Furman and Mark Lanegan are better than George Ezra and Ed Sheeran. Why aren't you asking them to stop booking all the shit male acts they book?
4 hours ago, addicted2noise said:It sounds daft but could the RTJ slot be somehow related to Bon Iver cancelling most of his tour? It looked like he was due to headline field day this year before cancelling his tour and RTJ were announced, maybe Glasto just did the same.
Bon Iver playing 4th down the Pyramid would have been much weirder than RTJ doing so. He'd sub Pyramid or headline Other.
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Another one checking in here for the Radiohead, Phoenix, Justice trio.
Turns out my group (the ones in my group I actually go around with at the fest) are all planning on the same trio which surprised me (although a couple considering BBK on Sun). No one really cared about any of the Saturday options but we've come to a conclusion of Phoenix together, which is just about my preferred destination.
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5 minutes ago, RATM said:
When comes the poster with stage layout??
I assume there isn't one. It is kinda pointless when the full line-up with set times goes up on the website at the same time.
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3 minutes ago, Rubber Soldier said:
Correct. It'll be absolutely rammed with wee dafties as well. Looks like it might be regular thing too, giving a DJ a headline slot in there, after Fatboy Slim doing the Saturday last year.
Fatboy Slim subbed M83.
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Just now, Padgey said:
Shit the bed, it could be happening!!!
No it couldn't. They're not going to randomly reunite at Glastonbury 4th down the Other Stage or at 5pm in the JP, when both brothers are touring their own material and Liam Gallagher is just embarking on his own solo project.
It's a mental suggestion.
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1 hour ago, Matt - Ed Banger Records said:
Had really high hopes for Mitzki showing up.
Ah piss I hadn't noticed this.
1 hour ago, DTichborne said:Someone will probably be able to find an exception to this, but it seems that bands playing Bristol Sounds don't also play Glastonbury... at least, not the headliners. Not sure if that's contractual. This is my first ever year of failing to get Glastonbury tickets, so at least I get to see them!
Last year three of the four headliners played...
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2 minutes ago, thewayiam said:
Are we sure given that poster placing he's going to be as low as 4th down Other?, it would certainly suggest higher.
Well every slot bigger than that is already taken?
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4 minutes ago, Dave_c said:
Dizee Rascal in general. WH headliner? Don't think so.
He replaced ATCQ.
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I cba with any more shit nightmares at Glasto.
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6 minutes ago, Tuna said:
So yeah, 30+% in 4 years ain't t'rrific. Though they kept the Earl's Court ones cheap. Quite a bit more than the other UK dates, right? You'd be hoping for some good support/one helluva show, regardless.
Yeah, my 4 Sc**thorpe tickets came to £202 including fees n stuff (dunno if there were less fees due to me buying them in person, obv didn't have to pay for delivery), so £50.50 each.
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Tuchel, one of most mentioned names for the Arsenal job, has just left Dortmund.
His contract was up, he wouldn't have been sacked. There was always an offer on the table and it was down to whether Wenger was going to sign it or whether he thought now was the right time to leave. For me he was always going to sign on. I think the best case now is that he confirms that this will be his final contract and they start to plan for his successor early.