PEARL JAM

[funkymunkey]

I don't even know why I use the term grunge. It's too geographically specific, and only part of what I mean.

Alternative Rock.

add,

Janes Addiction

Faith No More

Filter

NIN

Tool

Sonic Youth

Pavement

etc, etc. Grunge is just a microcosm of this genre.

[radish]

Yes and yes. But as you say the Melvins were never grunge in the way the Manics and Radiohead were never really Britpop in the way Supergrass and Cast were.

But many have gone:

Nirvana

Stone Temple Pilots

Soundgarden

Screaming Trees

Tad

[Cultseeker]

Listing good bands, doesn't alter the fact that many of these bands either don't exist or their best work is behind them. There are new bands to fill in this hole.

[funkymunkey]

I'm sorry, I just can't hold back, Supergrass britpop?!? I think not. Never took part in any of the media-frenzy shenanigans, no drinks with TB at no 10 or bitch fights with contemporaries, no, just decent, hugely under-rated music that's about as far from Britpop as any of the 'grunge' bands mentioned. And they're still going strong doing their own thing, as they always have. One song (Alright) does not sum up the entire work of the band, and in many ways while britpoppy in some ways is almost the complete antithesis of what Supergrass do best. Yes, they're inspired by some fine british bands (think The Who, Kinks, etc.) but they never followed the same line as, say, Menswear or indeed Cast or any of the other bandwagon-jumpers. I 'spose Super Furry Animals would get lumped into Britpop too? *Rant over, back to hole*

[Cultseeker]

1. Yes.

2. Yes, but were never acheived mainstream recognition.

3. Dead, and had a long period without anything (I think)

4. Again not mainstream.

5.Audioslave are metal/rawk, not really grunge.

6. Fair dos, but it's not the band he was in=no real recognition.

7. Who?

8. They haven't

9. No idea. Not mainstream either.

Edited August 9, 2006 by Cultseeker

[pogal]

They did in America but not over here due to 'Brit Pop'. Having said that they were one of the most popular festival bands of the 90's.

[Cultseeker]

I'll ignore your personal attacks on my integrity and position from which to join the debate, it's embarrassing for you frankly.

On the Britpop thing, I never liked Suede (although I thought Animal Nitrate was a good song), but the guitar player was clearly a very talented musician.

Now, you couldn't ever agree with, or acknowlege any talent among Britpop musicians purely because you lazily choose to dismiss an entire movement.

Why would you do that? It astounds me that you profess to be a passionate fan of music yet are prepared to limit your own listening in such a way. For me, it's an insult to music lovers who are open minded enough to realise that although they don't like the idea of such a movement, there may be bands/songs/riffs associated with it they enjoy.

Edited August 9, 2006 by Cultseeker

[radish]

I Should Coco is as Britpoptastic as the f**king Bluetones.

[pogal]

I do not recognise Brit Pop as a genuine genre. It was created by lazy journalists in conjunction with the media to market British culture to the rest of the world. It was politically endorsed music that had a strict set of rules. By that premiss how can there be any talent. It's like Britany Speares singing Star Spangled Banner, listening to that horrible s**t.

Blur I will talk about as an indie or alternative band. But once you speak of that circus act that did the adverts for British culture in 'Parklife' and 'Boys and Girls' you've lost me.

[funkymunkey]

I conceded that point long ago mate. I'm waiting for your references?!

Edited August 9, 2006 by funkymunkey

[deutsche Harru]

It's like Britany Speares singing Star Spangled Banner,

[Cultseeker]

Right, so Britpop is not a functional genre, but lumping Mudhoney in with Soundgarden and Tad in with Nirvana and Pearl Jam is something you're completely happy with?

And now, because you like Blur, they're not part of the Britpop movement you deny actually exists, the same non-existant movement you blame for Mudhoney underachieving?

[Pope Nora XXVI]

Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Modest Mouse

[funkymunkey]

Hot Hot Heat

[Pope Nora XXVI]

Look mate bollox.

All you do is re-iterate and infer. That's just arguing for arguments sake.

Edited August 9, 2006 by Pope Nora XXVI

[funkymunkey]

Oh yes yes yes. I would also like to add that if you don't like Arcade Fire, you honestly don't deserve ears.

[Cultseeker]

In no particular order:

Sunshine Underground, Infadels, Dustin's Bar Mitzvah, Pretty Girls Make Graves, Forward Russia, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Willy Mason, No Hope In New Jersey, Nine Black Alps, Coheed and Cambria, Boy Hits Car, Drive Like You Stole It, Gogol Bordello, Isis, Opeth, LCD Soundsystem, iLiKETRAiNS, Simian, Modest Mouse Pink Grease, Little Man Tate, Deadbeats, C/O/R/D.

[Pope Nora XXVI]

I thought they were a bit too mainstream to add to my list of underacheiving gems.

[Cultseeker]

You know he's right, secretly, don't you? Also, Wolf Parade/Sunset Rubdown, Interpol.

[Pope Nora XXVI]

I like music to have evolved from an idea and principle. I'm clearly failing to articulate this point, though Lord knows I have tried.

Edited August 9, 2006 by Pope Nora XXVI

[pogal]

Look mate bollox.

All you do is re-iterate and infer. That's just arguing for arguments sake.

I've given you the apples, do what you want with them.

[funkymunkey]

I'll strike those because I find them tedious and contrived.

I like music to have evolved from an idea and principle. I'm clearly failing to articulate this point, though Lord knows I have tried.

[funkymp]

i dont get why so many people rate forward russia, i saw them supporting editors at brixton and last year at reading in the carling tent, both times it just sounded like noise with screaming other the top, it aint music to me

[deutsche Harru]

I still am not sure what exactly it is you are looking for.

[funkymunkey]

i dont get why so many people rate forward russia, i saw them supporting editors at brixton and last year at reading in the carling tent, both times it just sounded like noise with screaming other the top, it aint music to me