eurovision 2010

[oafc0000]

By political do you mean culturaly alligned? (music being fairly cultural based)

We can win, we put in shite so don't. And let's be honest, bar about 6 or 7 exceptions tonight, there's been no real "set up" as you'd like to think.

We and 5 other countries pay 40%, the remaining countries pay the other 60%. This is because the original broadcasters wanted to keep the main control of things (and generaly still do to this day on how the TV show should be set up and filmed and the like.

[-pogo-]

this. though i'd say that pete waterman was worse. the song really was awful. why can't we get someone good to write a song. let whoever perform it but get a great tune for us.

[Alcatraz]

I don't mind losing, but I don't think we should get guaranteed entrance every year as the UK really contributes little to this contest anymore.

Next suggestion for next years entry would be Brian Eno

[oafc0000]

I don't mind losing, but I don't think we should get guaranteed entrance every year as the UK really contributes little to this contest anymore.

Next suggestion for next years entry would be Brian Eno

[ampersand]

He was also one of the only ones I noticed wobbling on the notes throughout, I'm sure there were a few others though, not as obvious but.

[Stash]

I don't mind losing, but I don't think we should get guaranteed entrance every year as the UK really contributes little to this contest anymore.

Next suggestion for next years entry would be Brian Eno

[lolbeck]

I just think Britain's problem is that we consistantly pick lame, 80's style, typically Eurovision-y songs, when everyone else is doing sort of, proper music. It's ridiculous.

[ampersand]

I just think Britain's problem is that we consistantly pick lame, 80's style, typically Eurovision-y songs, when everyone else is doing sort of, proper music. It's ridiculous.

[beLIEveR]

yeah he wasn't great. and there were others who were poor, like portugal. but yeah, no politics involved in us doing shite this year..

poor song was the key reason

[-pogo-]

Made an oopsy!

The hosting country foots 2/3'rds of the cost, the big five then pay 40% of the other 1/3 with the remaining countries paying the remaining 60% of 1/3.

[-pogo-]

Doesn't paying 15/20% of the bill constitute a contribution?

[oafc0000]

Made an oopsy!

The hosting country foots 2/3'rds of the cost, the big five then pay 40% of the other 1/3 with the remaining countries paying the remaining 60% of 1/3.

[oafc0000]

A poor song was the reason that we did badly, but Russia and Serbia's were unquestionably in the same bracket.

[beLIEveR]

I remember Ireland not wanting to win again at one point as it was bankrupting them

[Stash]

I think the reality is that even with the best eurovision song, the UK could currently probably only hope of gaining a reasonable score, this reality won't change in any coming years, if every.

The whole eurovision concept is very political as well as cultural, which doesn't benefit the UK

[-pogo-]

Yet they scored highly ?

So we failed because our song was shite... Why did Russia do well if not for political reasons ?

[oafc0000]

Shite is subjective and in the case of music, relates to culture. We're sitting here on a forum talking with British folk. I'm sure people from other nations would disagree with you. Not for political reasons, as has been said masses of people aren't that way inclined, but culturaly they are close and will like the same thing.

Malta not voting the UK points proves this realy.

[ampersand]

I can accept culture is one of them... You a bit of a dipstick if you want to push eurovision has nothing to do with politics...

[beLIEveR]

It's a combination of the song and political goodwill.

Russia could win with an average Eurovision song, and have to deliberately enter rubbish songs to ensure that the competition doesn't descend to farce status. Germany's song was a slightly above average one, but all of a sudden they bail out the whole of Europe and walk away with it.

[oafc0000]

It's a combination of the song and political goodwill.

[ampersand]

It's a combination of the song and political goodwill.

Russia could win with an average Eurovision song, and have to deliberately enter rubbish songs to ensure that the competition doesn't descend to farce status. Germany's song was a slightly above average one, but all of a sudden they bail out the whole of Europe and walk away with it.

[oafc0000]

i never actually thought of that. but it was a decent tune...

[beLIEveR]

i never actually thought of that. but it was a decent tune...

[-pogo-]

Barely gets talked about in the thread before and during the show, but once the votes get announced, the Brits have to come up with a reason they done shite!

These conspiracy theories are all too much, more than last year! My f**king god, please keep going!

[ampersand]

Decent? Yes (relatively speaking).

Comfortably the best? Not a chance. Not by a longshot.