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The "zero profit" thing is unenforceable. And while it's a good defence against organised touting, it opens things right up to "opportunistic" touting. Anyone with fewer than six people in their group would be able to grab an extra ticket and at the prices some are willing to pay immediately after failing in the sale, probably cover the cost of two of their tickets.

Some research and my own info with best guesses as to where acts might be. There's a very blurry line between smaller circus acts and walkabouts, and many performers might be doing both. I've listed street performers as walkabouts but the "A Little More Sensation" stage is basically a fixed stage that hosts street-style performances. Stand-up (Cabaret Tent) The Very Best of Tommy Cooper (Just Like That) - sort of a Tommy Cooper cover act? https://danieltaylorproductions.co.uk/the-very-best-of-tommy-cooper/ George Egg - comedian, anarchist cook - http://georgeegg.com/ Phil Wang - comic, as seen on Taskmaster - https://www.philwang.co.uk/ Paul Foot - comic improviser/weirdo - https://www.paulfoot.tv/ Jamali Maddix - comic, as seen on Taskmaster - https://www.jamalimaddix.com/ Maise Adam - comic - https://maisieadam.com/ Laura Smyth - comic - https://www.laurasmyth.com/ Nina Conti - comic / ventriloquist - https://www.ninaconti.net/ Doc Brown - comic / rapper - https://www.docbrown.co.uk/ Circus (Big Top/Sensation Seekers/Little More Sensation) Jon Udry - Juggler - https://jonudry.com/ Cirque Du Vulgar - last year's circus headliners return, they're also Circus Fantasia which is the same show but without the tits and motorbikes - https://www.cirqueduvulgar.com/ High Society - trapeze act that are often seen at the outdoor trapeze stage. One of the guys doing it is in his 60s and it's ridiculous. Mat Ricardo - Juggler/variety performer https://www.matricardo.com/ Silvia Pavone - circus hoop dancer - https://silviapavone.com/ Splash Test Dummies - comedy circus group - https://www.dummiescorp.com/splash-test-dummies Feeding The Fish - Pixel-poi light show, I was today year's old when I noticed the fish/poi pun - https://www.facebook.com/feedingthefishpixelpoi/ Slamboree - circus/cabaret/music - https://www.slamboree.co.uk/ Do What Ya Mama Told Ya! - plate spinning, food juggling and fire blazing - https://withoutwalls.uk.com/programme/do-what-ya-mamma-told-ya/ Dan The Hat - Juggler - https://www.danthehat.co.uk/biography Laura London - magician - https://www.lauralondonmagic.co.uk/ Walkabouts The Magnificent Kevens - live busking band - https://themagnificentkevens.com/ Blockbuster Factory - street show where they recruit people to make a Blockbuster film - https://continentaldrifts.co.uk/performer/blockbuster-factory/ Akira - hard to Google but think it's a street performer who does DJing and painting - https://coventgardenentertainment.co.uk/performers/akira-street-performer/ The Visionary - magic / fortune telling / comedy - https://www.thejonhicks.com/the-visionary Victoria Gugenheim - bodypainter - https://www.gugenheim.co.uk/ Wayne and Wanda - lipsync - https://www.wayneandwanda.co.uk/ Nutkhut - Indian dance - https://www.nutkhut.co.uk/projects-page/dance-and-performance/ Giant Seagulls - need no introduction - https://www.facebook.com/TheGiantSeagulls/ Poetry and Words Mama Tokus - poet/singer - https://www.mamatokus.com/ Joelle Taylor - poet - http://joelletaylor.co.uk/ Kate Fox - spoken word performer - https://katefoxwriter.wordpress.com/ Theatre (Astrolabe) Hot Brown Honey - aboriginal musical comedy/activism, looks pretty fun actually - https://www.hotbrownhoney.com/ Travis Alabanza - queer writer/poet/performer - https://travisalabanza.co.uk/work/ WTF La Familia Rosso - Google can't find anything. Can you imagine having your name on a Glastonbury line-up and literally no web presence? Joe Wicks - "It's official! I'm going to hosting a big family workout at @Glastonbury 🎪😀 I've never been before and I can't wait." Rogue Otherworld - an immersive theatre group. It's possible they just be dressed up as animals doing a walkabout, but it's also possible they might be making use of Rimski's Yard or somewhere else to do a proper show? - https://rogueotherworld.co.uk/wild-awake-2/

Can sort of feel the pinch on this one as well. I trust them to put on a good show but it's notable some of the more famous tentpole bookings are absent this year - regulars like your Nish Kumars and Jonathan Pies and the more off-the-wall bookings like Ruby Wax or Dom Joly.

I'm sure they could have. But they've instead got an MP who actually has the ability to make change. I don't think it's ever wise to pass that up.

Had an ace weekend at this - got to see a nice mix of big acts (Kumar, Acaster) and plenty of smaller ones. Certainly felt busier this year though!

Yet Brexit was a direct result of people voting for parties with no chance of being elected.

And you never know, maybe he'll change his mind? Leftfield invite a lot of MPs every year, and very few ever take them up on it. I don't agree with Streeting's views but I'm massively impressed that he's willing to appear, when it's not like he won't be aware of what he's in for on an actual panel about the NHS.

Surprised at no Grace Petrie!

£62 all in Wolves, Balcony seated (row B)

The AXS queue for Wolves doesn't even tell you your position. Or maybe it's just more honest.

Wouldn't be able to so guess I'd be paying someone to do it for me! You could register twice, give the public one a go and share it and keep a private one for you and close friends, so you can't be any worse off than before.

You can get multiple numbers inexpensively and run them as a mini call-centre from your home PC. It'd cost some money but so do VPNs.

Big difference between asking folk to bring you drink "in" and saying you'll meet them in the car park when they arrive and grab it then! I'd suggest if it's the latter you're asking to make that clear!

The festival do a good job at communicating stuff like that. The one year where it was miserable even into Wednesday afternoon, they were actively telling people to stay home and not to head in as there were hours of queues on the roads. People would just have to actually listen to that. 2 hour plus queues don't form suddenly.

I think that's part of it, but if you look at one of the big criticisms you see from older people of Gen-Z it's often "oh they're all bank of Mum and Dad vegans obsessed with trans rights and the environment" - and while that's a broad stereotype, I think it's fair to say that this group does exist and it's a group that in the past for whom Glastonbury would have very much been part of the calendar. And I'm not sure it's actually managed to reel them in as it stands. (And just for the elimination of any doubt - I think those young people are great and very much support them!)

From what people are saying, it sounds like the festival is attracting the "wrong sort" of young people. I don't mean that in a negative way, people should live how they want and stuff, but just compared to what it's been in the past. Like, Glastonbury should be the obvious home for politically fired-up, environment-conscious Gen-Zs. But rather than the alt-kids, we're getting the "cool" kids. (Again, nothing against either group, but when I was in my 20s, Glasto was where us weirdos went, the cool kids wouldn't have been seen dead there)

I think this is the biggest existential threat to the festival. How well Glasto's cultural cachet translates to social media is going to be a big part of it. Coachella has done it very well. Glasto can't rely on UK TV coverage by the BBC to make it into a country-wide "moment" any more though - because it's social media that drives that now, more so than TV. Plus we have this shift to bands going from making money selling records, with live shows and festival meaning discover and more sales, to live shows being the primary money-maker for bands, and streaming helping sell tickets for gigs. So playing live "not for money" is much rarer. Glasto can still position itself as a unique opportunity in this space, but I think they'll increasingly come across acts that will flat out not consider that sort of show on principle. I mean, such bands have always existed and it's why we never saw Fleetwood Mac for example, but I think a lot of the big new acts coming up will have a similar approach.

I think R&L probably are buggered to be honest. Them and Glasto are the two "big headliners" festivals left in the UK. Glasto is unique and could still navigate its way but it'll be along its own unique path.

I don't think GnR are a mis-step in terms of large headliners but I do think Neil has a good point in general that the expectation for headliners has been set very high over the past few festivals, far higher than it was five festivals ago. Now the festival sold out fine five years ago, so it should still be fine, but there's a question around when you raise expectations that high, what happens if on one year you can't meet them.

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I don't have the first clue who 99% of people I see at Glastonbury vote for, and the remaining 1% are when I'm at Leftfield. Unless there's a Corbyn rally on the Pyramid or something. And even then they might just be waiting for Run The Jewels. That's how I'm defining "keeping your head down".

Hobo, Lottery Winners and Beans.

Again, that's the view in my head of how someone "being openly Tory at Glasto" acts. Is it ridiculous? Yes. But I've asked you three times to tell me what it actually looks like in your head and you've not done so. How do most Tories act at Glasto? By not mentioning it and "keeping their heads down." How do most Labour voters act at Glasto? By not mentioning it and "keeping their heads down." For someone to be identifiably Tory at Glasto, they must be doing so *loudly* otherwise we wouldn't know. I'm happy to concede I might be missing something, but you gotta give me something here. What's the "Tory behaviour" you think should be allowed but we are saying should be discouraged? Specific, actual, behaviour. Not philosophical "right to be your whole authentic self" bollocks. Behaviours that would mark someone out as a Tory that wouldn't upset anyone else and would realistically happen at a festival. Because I'm drawing a blank mate.

True. We want to subdue and discourage them from saying Tory stuff because it's often hurtful and offensive. And they'll get stick for it which they likely won't enjoy in return. Nope. They are liked. If they would normally go about being loudly Tory and chanting the Tory manifesto, yes, we don't want them acting that way. If they'd normally be dicks because they don't believe in helping others than yes, we don't want them acting that way either. We want people to pick up others that fall over in the crowd. If, like 99.9% of people, their party political affiliation has 0% influence on how they act day to day, then it really doesn't matter either way.