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co headline above the chats maybe but still feels unlikely, I know bands tend to keep eu and uk dates in separate posts now too but them also posting all their eu dates in one place makes me less hopeful as well

Really want turnstile but fearing them playing in Sweden on the 14th and only being space for a headliner on the 13th, unless the chats aren't the only headliner on the 12th, makes it less likely

Likely nothing, but 2000 Trees reposts on TikTok are exclusively videos from the festival except the last one which is a Turnstile meme with next to no views

Are we sure Caroline is even headlining out right? feels like a similar situation with amyl this year who also played brixton academy the same week. Understand they might be downsizing but I wouldn't put it past them to get a bigger act as well

I was thinking it could happen after seeing them announced for roskilde but wasnt the most confident, very excited for them again

Thats a DJ set not a live set that they would have to bring to headline MSW, don't see it happening but they've subbed download before with a live set so I'd say theyre a MSW sub atleast

gorillaz announced their guests: Bootie Brown, De La Soul, Hypnotic Brass, moonchild Sanelly, Paul Simonon, Popcaan, Shaun Ryder, Rowetta, Sweetie Irie, Yasmin Bey.

I mean I love it, gets the energy going but ive seen idles enough that idm missing it a bit this one time. as long as I make it for the wall of death. will be sprinting as soon as tlc is done

Never been to APE, the main stages look like theyre really far apart on the map. Whats it like in reality?

suppose its not off the cards for them to just play faster unlike a lot of other bands where that would sound weird. Saw them at 2000 trees as well and I assumed pup was just late as well not that turnstile still managed to finish on time. TBF they like to drone a but at the end with their glittery noises and idles like to spend a good five minutes droning at the start of their set with colossus so its not off the cards to be there for almost all of both.

feels so dumb theyve done it like that when idles and turnstile are the only two punk bands and will have a lot more crossover of interest than them and anyone else on the lineup, makes sense to me to swap idles and pusha T's slots

DITZ and Enola gay are incredible post punk heavier than shame, beach riot are a really good fuzzy alt rock band, courting arent mega heavy but post punk somewhere between sports team and shame, the hara, venus grrrrls, dream nails, gen and the degenerates, Tom lumley, carsick.

does anyone know much about volunteering on the bar here? Im doing that this year and theres really not much info on what or when ill be doing anything yet

This seems wild to me. Might just be my echo chamber but Tame Impala seem like the second most reading band after AM. They seem to appeal to rock fans loads, are most rap fans fave rock act, and used relentlessly on tiktok. They might struggle at APE because of the pretty weak undercard, king giz definitely should have been on their day, but on a reading day would probably be the first day to sell out

Exactly, I was a bit underwhelmed when he got announced for 2020 because I dont keep up with him and havent really cared about what he's done since he subbed in 2017 but absolutely see liam is there now. when he was announced for 2021 It might have been able to go either way then if biffy was announced at the same time but now its no contest. Do think if biffy wasnt a replacement theyd be MSE but also they seem happy to play whatever so it'd probably depend on how demanding the other headliner is

was more meaning both Liam and Biffy could have been MSE

when I googled it was listed as 4000-10,000 and I kinda assumed that as its used as a convention centre they were different caps for different uses, felt identical to ally pally in there

I think thats how most big rock acts keep the crowd they have these days. Think biffy and liam are close to interchangeable between MSE and MSW when pitched againts eachother but liam beats QOTSA to a british audience

Looking at the venues they've sold out they have. 2016 playing Wembley (12,500 cap) to this year with 4 sold out shows in the Olympia (10,000 cap) plus a Brixton academy show just in London. I saw them at their 3rd night in the Olympia and I really think you'd need an incredibly strong alternative to justify putting them on MSW

Have 2x slowthai tickets going for brixton tomorrow, willing to take under face value