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24 minutes ago, eFestivals said:
The who were already fixed to headline over a weekend a few days before they were announced. I was told about it but discounted it as they had a show in France booked. I posted on here about it at the time
So I heard Prince never said yes to Glastonbury in any certain sense.
This was some time before the Who got announced. Would have been in late March/early April - closer Foos and Kanye had been confirmed.
I remember you breaking The Who rumours a few days before it was announced - and people being sceptical because they had a gig in Paris (?) that weekend. I remember it being uncertain for a few weeks before that who would be the third and it wasn't on the poster. Some crazy suggestions were being thrown around.
However this incident was way before then.
Anyway, there's also a blog of the Glastonbury gig from a crew member of "The Who". It's even on their official website. It states they were a last minute replacement for Prince. It's here - https://www.thewho.com/backstage-blog/28-june-2015-glastonbury-festival-worthy-farm-somerset/ -
20 hours ago, Matt42 said:
I believe there was one year he said yes on a Friday evening and called up on Monday to say he’d changed his mind. Not sure which.
He also told the festival he would never play.
Michael was at a small event (he was opening an art exhibition for an autism charity) that I was at, where he said at the table that they were hoping the final headliner would be announced that evening (think it was a Monday but not sure). Was the same year Kanye played. However he wouldn't say who except something like 'he's unpreditable, until he's 100% confirmed you can never be sure'.
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When does the J&J one hit the UK?
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22 minutes ago, eFestivals said:
I thought you were one of those who has taken great delight in calling starmer shit he might be shit but he's the best Labour has to offer right now.
No delight taken, but Starmer is absolutely awful and both the polls and anecdotal evidence suggests most people agree. It might change but there is absolutely nothing to get behind.
Labour will probably lose the by election of a seat they held in 2019 and considering how awful the last year had been for most people, that is by any standards a poor show.
Grim stuff.
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1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:
When Whitty made his 25,000 deaths comment the other day (I am presuming he thinks this is where it will land).
I don’t think he was saying it would be that high. Just that flu has recently been that high without anyone batting an eyelid.
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4 minutes ago, eFestivals said:
Lots of singleideas are popular all ideas don't end there.in sure I agree with lots of your ideas it doesn't mean want all of your ideas.
Good point. So stop comparing people to Lawrence Fox or the death cult just because they share a single idea on a form of digital ID
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35 minutes ago, eFestivals said:
Show something from history where temporty infection control mesursve become a perminsnt way of control.. Unless you can youre talking scare. Ongering crap. The evidence that justifies rthem is covid.
It’s not a reaction to Covid at all. The idea of vaccine passports or a ‘health passport’ or common pass etc outdates the pandemic by years.
8 minutes ago, eFestivals said:Covid is the evidence.would you prefer to sit next to someone with covid or without it
Well if someone’s had their vaccine it shouldn’t matter anyway? They shouldn’t be infected.
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12 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:
Only because it won't be them who has absolute control over the population...
That’s the Lib Dems, left of the Labour Party and Starmer against them now.
It’s not just the ‘death cult’ as you hear from @eFestivals(as if Boris/Gove/Sunak etc are actually better than that wing anyway)
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1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:
It was a mild joke
Given the year we just had - I think the concept of freedom has been disrupted and potentially changed forever.Sorry. Long day!
(long year!)
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13 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
I know - but I think this concept that 1984 is on the horizon in a first world democracy is a little off the charts which is where you are ultimately going right ?
No.
But at the same time I think people shouldn’t be complacent with their freedoms. Peaceful protests were taken away last week.
Making out people who have legitimate concerns about governments are ‘conspiracy theorists’ is lazy smug arguing and detracts from actual nonsense that gets peddled.
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5 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
Its more you entering the "Bill Gates wants to control me" wonderland...
Losing the argument here if you’re resorting to that ad hominem.
You know it can be true that a) people aren’t being microchipped and b) there are governments and big businesses who will use crises to implement a few changes they wanted anyway?
(Alrhough as an aside I would be be surprised if he was against them considering how much Microsoft stand to make 😂)
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2 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
And here comes the conspiracy theories...
Is the idea governments sneak through things at ideal opportunity a ‘conspiracy theory’?
Because you’re one naive bloke if you believe that.
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Just now, Barry Fish said:
That you presume they destroyed 21 days after and no one else saw, copied or took advantage of your personal details simply being written down on a people paper which lots of the public potentially could see etc etc etc.
Last year was a data protection nightmare - resulting in things as serious as women being harassed by men.
A proper government system would infinitely more secure and robust.I’m against both systems for the record.
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6 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
You did last year...
Anyway a vaccine passport would simply be a green tick / QR code check with government DB - nothing more.It won’t remain that eventually will it. And we don’t need it.
They’re just trying to sneak digital ID systems through whilst people are desperate enough to accept any old nonsense.
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11 minutes ago, eFestivals said:
does the average frenchie have to show threir id card to get a beer
Well the proposal is that you might need a vaccine passport to get a beer in future.
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4 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
You did last year...
Anyway a vaccine passport would simply be a green tick / QR code check with government DB - nothing more.I wrote my name and number down which they destroyed after 21 days during the middle of a pandemic.
That’s different to a vaccine passport after almost all vulnerable people are immune.
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8 minutes ago, stuie said:
Of course not. And they wouldn’t get it if we had ID cards either.
If the system is un-hackable and un-abusable then maybe. But let's be honest it won't be at some stage.
I also like the radical idea people don't have to sign in everywhere they go. The systems we have pre-pandemic worked fine for me and should after.
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2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:
I think the clincher is going to be the fact that vast numbers of the staff won't be vaccinated until near the end, so if its about safety and making people feel safe then having unvaccinated people making/serving/handling your food and drink and cleaning your tables, even in masks, doesn't quite offer that!
Also, without trying to be funny, not comfortable with cutting off anyone who chooses not to have the vaccine from everyday life. It's their choice, they should be able to go to the pub.
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1 minute ago, stuie said:
I still don’t really understand why people are anti ID cards. I already have a driving licence, passport, NHS ID, NI number and a HMRC record.
Not much left really. I don’t have any issue with joining all that up.
You don't have to give all that detail to every pub you go in do you?
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1 minute ago, Barry Fish said:
I get that - I think a lot of people don't care anymore. We want to go back to something like normal.
Yes and we can go back to normal without vaccine passports. Vaccine Passports are not 'normal' and we shouldn't risk the fall out.
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6 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
1/3 to 2/3 reduction in the spread depending on which study you read - so I don't think that is entirely true.
Still don't trust the government with the digital ID system it will inevitably become. They won't go away. Lots of ethical issues etc. Think it is a terrible prospect. I mean look where we are already with this government and protests etc - we should resist 'papers please' ideas.
If the vulnerable are supposedly now immune either via vaccine or recovery then we should be able to survive without vaccine passports with a sensible reopening. -
3 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
Can you see them doing it before everyone is offered vaccination ? I think they will only do this once everyone has been given the choice. After that I would welcome it.
Considering we're being told that the vaccine doesn't stop people carrying it what is the point? It's either safe to go out or it isn't basically.
My opinion is that Vaccine Passports are generally a political manoeuvre as opposed to any logical reason. Essentially it is just a Tony Blair ID card idea again (indeed Tony's institute has been a major organisation pushing this within government - by its own declarations). I'd be comfortable with them if they literally were to target the pandemic, but let's be honest their purpose will inevitably extended into a digital ID down the line. A no from me.
All that said, a vaccine passport would likely include the option for a negative test result too (for those that can't or will choose not to have the vaccine)
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On 3/11/2021 at 10:57 AM, JoeyT said:
Does this mean that a weekend event could take place before this though?
I'm intrigued to know if they would need to apply for a licence (i assume they would?) in which case surely the notice period to residents would have to be relatively soon?
P.S. you totally know something 😉
On 3/15/2021 at 2:55 AM, eFestivals said:The term has ayear round site licencec can hold as many events as it wants whenever it wants.
They would still have to submit an Event Management Plan to the council, and thus gain approval from SAGE though.
Also according to the Mendip website “The current licence authorises one event per year which is usually held in June” (https://www.mendip.gov.uk/article/7467/Glastonbury-Festival-Licensing-and-Event-Management-Information)
So is there another licence for the site which covers the unlimited events?
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18 minutes ago, zahidf said:
Maybe one of the way to protect rhe NHS would be to sack anyone refusing a vaccination?
Awful take
Glastonbury acts that never were
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Posted · Edited by strummer77
Fair enough, it's not exactly against what I'm saying - the story wasn't he was 100% (quite the opposite).
Michael was saying they were hoping to announce the third headliner that night (although think he also hinted it could be later in week) but couldn't be sure until it was 100% because of the way 'he' was and past dealings with said unnamed artist.
From memory that was a fairly wild year for the last headliner until The Who confirmed. You may even have ran a story about a supergroup rumour or something at one stage?