Phil Collins Announces Retirement

[worm]

i don't really class pink floyd in the same group of yes, elp, rush, genesis, king crimson.

[The Nal]

aye but the wall wasn't exactly as pretentious or proggy as something like close to the edge or foxtrot. i don't really class pink floyd in the same group of yes, elp, rush, genesis, king crimson.

i mean brick in the wall was hardly a supper's ready or 2112.

[worm]

Punk defo attached itself to the common man, but to say it’s the only reason that prog died isn’t true.

[ampersand]

And Rush and Marillion came in the 1980s.

[worm]

did punk rock take off in canada though?

[The Nal]

That's not really what I've said though if you have another look.

What I'm saying is that punk sensibilities and the pursuit of perfection were spawned from the likes of Pink Floyd, while Pink Floyd maintained their fixation with experimentation and modernism. While the others turned their back, Pink Floyd carried on unabaited often using what the others were doing in the creation of their own music, as is the case with Wall.

[ampersand]

maybe it does just have a shelf life.

for me, i've not properly listened to prog in a good few years. i was really into it in high school. i'll still pull out the odd album but would never listen to just prog like i did about 6 or 7 years ago.

[ampersand]

that...

[worm]

I see yeah. Tis true, but back to the original point, even leave the Floyd out of it, punk wasn’t the only reason for the “death” of prog. Maybe it was the blending together of musical tastes, classes (especially with th state of the UK in the mid to late 70s), or, people just realised that most of the prog rock bands were shit.

Edited March 14, 2011 by worm

[ampersand]

Cultural trasition, or to borrow from the marketing industry, fashion. The old addage of 'things change' is probably apt here.

[worm]

I remember seeing Genesis with Peter Gabriel still in them (supposedly when they were good ), and I remember thinking "what a load of pretencious twaddle"

[The Nal]

Cultural trasition, or to borrow from the marketing industry, fashion. The old addage of 'things change' is probably apt here.

[worm]

yup, nobody wants the same thing all the time. change is good. unless you're liam gallagher.

[ampersand]

because of the shit they played...

how often do you play the whole of Tales From Topographic Oceans?

I like the early stuff..

[worm]

Yeah, punk was a part of it, a catalyst for change. But not the only reason.

Edited March 14, 2011 by worm

[worm]

because of the shit they played...

how often do you play the whole of Tales From Topographic Oceans?

I like the early stuff..