scum.

[ukslim]

I posted on the weather thread a while back about the guy behind Metcheck having been convicted of child rape. It got barely a response. People seemed to not give a dam.

But someone dares sell a Glasters ticket, something they are legally entitled to do, and all hell breaks loose.

You lot have a weird sense of priority.

[cejx]

although they don't have to, EBAY should remove all listings connected with G fest tickets. The email address should be passed to GFL, registration canceled and future registrations no allowed with that email Whereas I realise email addresses can be changed, there is a small deterrent.

The soon some kind of scanning equipment is brought in at the gates the better.

My friends ticket is on EBAY - and no amount of telling him he's a tit for doing so will stop him wanting to sell. He genuinely cannot go due to a family issue... but just checked his ticket and he is up to 350 quid.

330441204258 is the ref

if you want to do any fake bidding guys.

[dirk4danger]

I'm not sure I get you, how does it?

If the anti resale measures hadn't been put in place, the ticket prices would be astronomical because of the number of people that want to go to the event and the ease of the touting procedure (Live Nation events actually encourage this by allowing 'official' resellers to have a large number of the tickets to sell at inflated prices, but that's a whole other argument)

With the anti resale measures in place, people are seeing a way around them, so the ticket prices are astronomical because of the number of people that want to go to the event. What's the difference?

Michael Eavis has consistently publicly stated that he does not want people to have to pay double the price on the ticket to attend HIS festival, why is so hard to grasp that its his right to want it this way, and morally it's also his right to expect it to be this way?

Edited June 10, 2010 by dirk4danger

[dirk4danger]

Er, he's been convicted, and is paying whatever penalty the court gave, right now. What are we supposed to say "OMG! Put him in prison twice!"?

These people are openly breaking the law right now now (because it is not "something they are legally entitled to do"). The tickets are non-transferrable. It's right there in the T&Cs you accept when you buy them.

[ukslim]

Michael Eavis has consistently publicly stated that he does not want people to have to pay double the price on the ticket to attend HIS festival, why is so hard to grasp that its his right to want it this way, and morally it's also his right to expect it to be this way?

[Tugger2k]

item does not exist!!

tell him if he puts it up again unless its at a reasonable buy it now there are people that will report it and it will get removed again!!

[junglist_matty]

Since the registration system was put in place the official ticket price has rocketed. See helpful graph! Glastonbury is no longer subject to market forces because of the lack of ticket resale. The attendance is almost entirely unreliant on the line-up because it is impossible for ticket holders to back out once they have got a ticket.

Bringing back resaleable tickets would allow market forces to take hold once more and the ticket price to find it's natural level.

GRAPH!:

[ukslim]

GRAPH!:

Edited June 10, 2010 by ukslim

[Langdale Wolf]

My point is that people have no hesitation in linking to his site and promoting it so that when he gets out of jail he will have a nice profitable business to come back to.

I was simply contrasting it to the attitude to ticket resale, which is perfectly legal. T&Cs are a civil issue, not criminal.

[dirk4danger]

THIS! This is the important thing. This is why standard commodity market reasoning doesn't apply to Glastonbury.

If M.E. wanted the market to dictate the ticket price, he'd set the price so that demand precisely matched capacity.

But he doesn't want that. We can only speculate about his reasons. My guess is that he partly runs the festival for the satisfaction of creating something special, and he knows that this special something is partly influenced by the punters. Pricing the festival too high would force out a demographic that contributes to the vibe.

The non-transferrable ticket mechanisms were put in place precisely because ME *does not want* market economics to set the price of the ticket. It is wrong to try and subvert this.

[DougalMcGuire]

Since the registration system was put in place the official ticket price has rocketed. See helpful graph! Glastonbury is no longer subject to market forces because of the lack of ticket resale. The attendance is almost entirely unreliant on the line-up because it is impossible for ticket holders to back out once they have got a ticket.

Bringing back resaleable tickets would allow market forces to take hold once more and the ticket price to find it's natural level.

GRAPH!:

[Langdale Wolf]

Is the line-up better now than in the 90s?

[Buddhafish]

Bringing back resaleable tickets would allow market forces to take hold once more and the ticket price to find it's natural level.

[dirk4danger]

It's a more bent straight line than many I've seen. Seems very curved in fact.

But I'll back off. Debating curvature is too much.

Point is that prices have gone up a lot since the reg system, so to say that Glastonbury are somehow on our side in preventing resale is toss. I say they do it to protect high prices.

And, just to clarify, by natural level I mean cheaper! The prices are too high.

Edited June 10, 2010 by dirk4danger

[Langdale Wolf]

But I'll back off. Debating curvature is too much.

[Buddhafish]

It's a more bent straight line than many I've seen. Seems very curved in fact.

But I'll back off. Debating curvature is too much.

Point is that prices have gone up a lot since the reg system, so to say that Glastonbury are somehow on our side in preventing resale is toss. I say they do it to protect high prices.

And, just to clarify, by natural level I mean cheaper! The prices are too high.

[Tugger2k]

f**k me you've really bought into the Eavis.

Look at the graph above. In a decade where the general price level has remained near steady the price of a Glastonbury ticket has gone up 100%..

Is the line-up better now than in the 90s?

[DougalMcGuire]

Which do you prefer? Cauliflower or motor racing?

If you can ask something completely irrelevant, so can I.

[Tugger2k]

It's a more bent straight line than many I've seen. Seems very curved in fact.

But I'll back off. Debating curvature is too much.

Point is that prices have gone up a lot since the reg system, so to say that Glastonbury are somehow on our side in preventing resale is toss. I say they do it to protect high prices.

And, just to clarify, by natural level I mean cheaper! The prices are too high.

Edited June 10, 2010 by Tugger2k

[rolfester]

I'm bored - how can I entertain myself?

I have an idea - I will check on ebay to see if anyone is selling a Glastonbury ticket, become morally outraged and put a link to the auction on a Glastonbury forum with a suitably over the top thread title indicating the depth of my indignation.

Or perhaps I'll walk the dog, or go to the toilet intead....

[Langdale Wolf]

I'm bored - how can I entertain myself?

I have an idea - I will check on ebay to see if anyone is selling a Glastonbury ticket, become morally outraged and put a link to the auction on a Glastonbury forum with a suitably over the top thread title indicating the depth of my indignation.

Or perhaps I'll walk the dog, or go to the toilet intead....

[Insomaniac]

Naww man, quite the opposite ..... But at the same time through reading the forum i can see where people are getting ticked off with the situation as it can obviously be manipulated by touts as a money-making exercise.

....ha please don't gun me down less than 2 weeks to go!!

[Tugger2k]

I'm bored - how can I entertain myself?

I have an idea - I will check on ebay to see if anyone is selling a Glastonbury ticket, become morally outraged and put a link to the auction on a Glastonbury forum with a suitably over the top thread title indicating the depth of my indignation.

Or perhaps I'll walk the dog, or go to the toilet intead....

[cejx]

item does not exist!!

tell him if he puts it up again unless its at a reasonable buy it now there are people that will report it and it will get removed again!!

[Nedson]

i think the point being made was you stated that everyone would do it, and yet there are lots of examples in this thread where people havent. you havent acknowledged that some people have bigger and better principles than you, and actually care not just about 2010's festival, but the future attendee's that are going to find it harder and harder to go if this thing is encouraged.