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He once, ill advisedly referred to individual members of Hamas as friends. Which he clarified and expressed regret. Not a big deal. Anyone who really thinks Corbyn, who has supported human rights and peace more than any other MP, sympathises with the aims of Hamas is either genuinely profoundly stupid or is being performative. I don't care about the Tories. I think lathing this latest bloodshed into an optics issue or centering British politics within it is a bit suss to be honest.

As we're doing Corbyn fan fiction again this was the position of Corbyn's Labour on Israel and Palestine from the 2019 manifesto (the 2017 manifesto said almost the same): No reasonable person would take issue with any of that. You'd think Labour had "Victory to the Intifada, River to the Sea" in their manifesto the way some people carry on. I should add that I suspect very similar language (minus the last sentence) to appear in the next Labour manifesto.

Collective punishment (cutting off water etc) is a war crime (as is the blockade itself) but the Israeli flag is today flying on our public buildings and lit up on Downing Street. Gross.

The guy who posted that audio is an obvious shitposter. Anyone that needs to be told that it's fake or has thought for a second it's real is welcome to make an offer for the magic beans I have to sell.

Yes, I think that was an unbelievably ill judged thing to say.

Israel has a right to proportionate defence, I've never seen anyone deny that whilst I have seen plenty of people deny the Palestinian right to resistance (even when it is non-violent as with BDS). Hamas are obviously bad. I'm fed up with being demanded in the discourse to condemn Hamas to be honest. I'd just take it as read that most reasonable people do not support Hamas.

Israel's "right to exist" is a specious argument. People have rights, nation states do not. Did Yugoslavia have a right to exist? If Scotland voted for independence would that violate the rights of the other countries of the UK? Supporters of Israel use bad faith arguments to legitimise the occupation of Palestine. Actions such as that undertaken by Hamas yesterday play into that too, but Hamas aren't really concerned with optics.

Good choice. When they were trailing "massive headliner" I was a bit worried, but King Gizz seem ideally suited to wide awake to be honest

Would rather a strong undercard with a nominal headliner, like the first year with Shame closing the stage (any of Black Midi, BCNR when they were good or Squid could have really), than some massive act, but I appreciate tickets need to be shifted in this economy.

It's come to something when you can't even say the things that people have been saying openly and repeatedly on this public forum, and you can't have the debate that has been going on for the majority of this nine page thread. It's like living under the bloody Stasi.

There's nothing to discount because that's not evidence, but I'll leave you to your common sense.

If you have evidence, not anecdote, that social media is propelling an increase in gender incongruence amongst kids by all means present it.

Lot of misinformation in this thread. There is no such thing as "gender blockers". Puberty blockers have the risk profile of plenty of other drugs and much less than some. They are not a new thing and neither are they exclusively used in gender affirming healthcare, for example they can be used to treat early onset puberty. The social contagion argument, or the kids are all doing it because of tiktok is highly spurious and was largely based on the 2018 Littman paper (which every terf cites but precisely zero have read) that contains various methodological errors and generally bad science. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/3/e2022056567/188709/Sex-Assigned-at-Birth-Ratio-Among-Transgender-and There were trans people before social media. I know two trans women in their 60s who transitioned before Facebook and even widespread internet use. One is looking to leave the UK because of the hostility they face here. What is for some a "debate" is for others something much more profound and has far more, often negative, implications. Detransitioners represent a tiny fraction of an already tiny minority. They deserve respect and to be part of the conversation but amplifying their voices above or regarding them as having equivalent weight to those of trans people in this conversation is perverse and usually driven by an agenda. The belief that to be trans you need to be "born in the wrong body" or to believe that you are, is not as widely held as cis people tend to believe, and can be viewed as a fairly reductive way of approaching gender incongruence. Before demanding a "debate" why not listen to trans people first and then engage in a spirit of learning rather than to make a point?

Graham Linehan lost his family and career because he got more enjoyment out of calling people on the internet nonces. His "I'm sticking up for women and children" is offensive to both women and children, of whom he has helped not a single one. If that's someone who Ayoade wants to associate himself with positively then crack on, but expect to be critiqued accordingly and robustly.

Great move from Ninja Tune. Imagine at this stage they couldn't get out of releasing the record for contractual reasons so about as much as they can do. Guess she f**ked around and found out. Good, words have consequences.

Just seen this. Yuck. She can get in the bin with all the other terfs. Trans lives aren't up for debate, particularly by cis people.

They, or more to the point their operators, were a blight at greenman. Particularly if not lit up or marked at night. I have very poor vision at night. Leaving waist height in some cases wooden structures around not well lit bits in a festival for people to hurt themselves on seems hugely inconsiderate to me. Put some hi-vis tape or something on it if you don't want to do fairy lights. Lot of people got very defensive when asked to move their trolleys or show basic consideration in busy areas.

Can't be arsed to go today. They could easily have got a replacement for Tove Lo. They did this when First Aid Kit, a significant name on the lineup, pulled out of the Bon Iver (boring as sin) day, just bumped everyone up.

Despite the weather disrupting things enjoyed today a lot more than yesterday's debacle. The diverse and largely pleasant crowd a nice contrast from yesterday too. Giving Erykah Badu only a hour clearly a ridiculous decision. Plenty heading to the exits after her great set. Although Jungle looked like they had a decent crowd and weren't affected too much.

He can't or won't sing. Just honking vocals, people streaming to the exits. Honestly one of the worst headline festival sets I've ever seen. Band not that tight either to be honest. I stuck it out as far as I could.

I haven't seen the strokes since the second album tour but my god this is sh*t. Is this what they've been like for the past fifteen years? Good sets by Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Warmduscher, Picture Parlour and Be Your Own Pet saved the day but my god what a pile of steaming sh*t the strokes are these days.

Would echo some of the comments about communications, logistics and general organisation this year. It all felt a bit rougher around the edges than previously. The Friday rain obviously didn't help and there are things simply of out anyone's control of course. The lineups remain fantastic for me but there's a lot that could be done to improve the general experience for the punter whose spending about 250 quid on a ticket. Maybe there's not much incentive to improve now with the tickets selling out on the day of release before the lineup is announced and the obligatory five star review from the guardian.

No issue with properly supervised children or it being family friendly. But family friendly should also mean people with young families taking others into account. It's a two way street. My group included children who had a great time. Youngest had a small fold up pram. Folded away as soon as it looked like standing room was at a premium. You can't do that with a massive wooden trolley and people seem unwilling to move them when they're clearly being an inconvenience.

Very odd reading of my post. I wrote that the stage is a waste of time (poor sound, barely ever well attended, lights don't really achieve anything in daylight etc). I make no comment on the acts on it. Plenty I'd like to see there actually but the venue puts me off.

No coverage at all. Was glad for the greenman public WiFi although it was very patchy and seemed to depend a lot where you were when trying to connect.