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  1. He once, ill advisedly referred to individual members of Hamas as friends. Which he clarified and expressed regret. Not a big deal. Anyone who really thinks Corbyn, who has supported human rights and peace more than any other MP, sympathises with the aims of Hamas is either genuinely profoundly stupid or is being performative. I don't care about the Tories. I think lathing this latest bloodshed into an optics issue or centering British politics within it is a bit suss to be honest.
  2. As we're doing Corbyn fan fiction again this was the position of Corbyn's Labour on Israel and Palestine from the 2019 manifesto (the 2017 manifesto said almost the same): No reasonable person would take issue with any of that. You'd think Labour had "Victory to the Intifada, River to the Sea" in their manifesto the way some people carry on. I should add that I suspect very similar language (minus the last sentence) to appear in the next Labour manifesto.
  3. Collective punishment (cutting off water etc) is a war crime (as is the blockade itself) but the Israeli flag is today flying on our public buildings and lit up on Downing Street. Gross.
  4. The guy who posted that audio is an obvious shitposter. Anyone that needs to be told that it's fake or has thought for a second it's real is welcome to make an offer for the magic beans I have to sell.
  5. Yes, I think that was an unbelievably ill judged thing to say.
  6. Israel has a right to proportionate defence, I've never seen anyone deny that whilst I have seen plenty of people deny the Palestinian right to resistance (even when it is non-violent as with BDS). Hamas are obviously bad. I'm fed up with being demanded in the discourse to condemn Hamas to be honest. I'd just take it as read that most reasonable people do not support Hamas.
  7. Israel's "right to exist" is a specious argument. People have rights, nation states do not. Did Yugoslavia have a right to exist? If Scotland voted for independence would that violate the rights of the other countries of the UK? Supporters of Israel use bad faith arguments to legitimise the occupation of Palestine. Actions such as that undertaken by Hamas yesterday play into that too, but Hamas aren't really concerned with optics.
  8. Good choice. When they were trailing "massive headliner" I was a bit worried, but King Gizz seem ideally suited to wide awake to be honest
  9. Would rather a strong undercard with a nominal headliner, like the first year with Shame closing the stage (any of Black Midi, BCNR when they were good or Squid could have really), than some massive act, but I appreciate tickets need to be shifted in this economy.
  10. It's come to something when you can't even say the things that people have been saying openly and repeatedly on this public forum, and you can't have the debate that has been going on for the majority of this nine page thread. It's like living under the bloody Stasi.
  11. There's nothing to discount because that's not evidence, but I'll leave you to your common sense.
  12. If you have evidence, not anecdote, that social media is propelling an increase in gender incongruence amongst kids by all means present it.
  13. Lot of misinformation in this thread. There is no such thing as "gender blockers". Puberty blockers have the risk profile of plenty of other drugs and much less than some. They are not a new thing and neither are they exclusively used in gender affirming healthcare, for example they can be used to treat early onset puberty. The social contagion argument, or the kids are all doing it because of tiktok is highly spurious and was largely based on the 2018 Littman paper (which every terf cites but precisely zero have read) that contains various methodological errors and generally bad science. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/3/e2022056567/188709/Sex-Assigned-at-Birth-Ratio-Among-Transgender-and There were trans people before social media. I know two trans women in their 60s who transitioned before Facebook and even widespread internet use. One is looking to leave the UK because of the hostility they face here. What is for some a "debate" is for others something much more profound and has far more, often negative, implications. Detransitioners represent a tiny fraction of an already tiny minority. They deserve respect and to be part of the conversation but amplifying their voices above or regarding them as having equivalent weight to those of trans people in this conversation is perverse and usually driven by an agenda. The belief that to be trans you need to be "born in the wrong body" or to believe that you are, is not as widely held as cis people tend to believe, and can be viewed as a fairly reductive way of approaching gender incongruence. Before demanding a "debate" why not listen to trans people first and then engage in a spirit of learning rather than to make a point?
  14. Graham Linehan lost his family and career because he got more enjoyment out of calling people on the internet nonces. His "I'm sticking up for women and children" is offensive to both women and children, of whom he has helped not a single one. If that's someone who Ayoade wants to associate himself with positively then crack on, but expect to be critiqued accordingly and robustly.
  15. Great move from Ninja Tune. Imagine at this stage they couldn't get out of releasing the record for contractual reasons so about as much as they can do. Guess she f**ked around and found out. Good, words have consequences.
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