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12 hours ago, billybigballs said:
We tend to watch the headliners whether we're big fans of them or not. Obviously, it's preferable that we like them but appreciate that everyone has different tastes. This year, I'm resigned to the fact that the majority will not be to our taste.
We're far more concerned at the fact that the acts lower down the line-up mostly disinterest us.
I agree. It makes me think of metal festivals I go to, for example Hellfest : in 2019 and 2023, I attended NONE of the headliners lol, still it remains my favorite festival because the undercard is gold.
I expect kind of the same with Sziget this year, I ended up accepting that the headliners would not be at the level of 2022
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8 hours ago, Dukkai said:
to simply put, bands that would make a decisive factor and when people see the announcement they would actually consider buying a ticket for at least a day pass for the festival.
Good example of that was Imagine Dragons and Billie Eilish last year. Whatever you may think about their music, they are huge names and people would go to the festival just to see their act.
Another good indicator would be if you had those names on a poster and showed it to random people on the street whether they would recognize the names there or not. Acts listed by rowexx - Lana, Jorja, James Blake, Jungle, RAYE, Sevdaliza, Kali Uchis, Bicep, Charli XCX, 21 Savage, Omar Apollo, Maneskin, Troye Sivan, FKA Twigs, Arca, Kim Petras, I can guarantee you that out of 100 people, you would find max 10 that would recognize more than 3 acts there, with 2 being Lana and Maneskin.
As for other festivals headliners..
Take for example Mad Cool: Dua Lipa, Smashing Pumpkins, Nothing but Thieves, Garbage, Pearl Jam, Avril Lavigne, SUM 41, Jessie Ware, Bring me the horizon. Musical taste aside, the hypothetical 100 people from the example above, at least 50% of those would recognize at least 3-4 acts from there (unless you pick 100 people that only listen to domestic music or sth like that)
Rock Werchter has, in addition to some of the above acts Foo Fighters, Snow Patrol and Lenny Kravitz who are all 3 bigger individually than all of the current Sziget acts all pilled together (if you leave out Fred again and Sam Smith).
"Outdated" or not (however silly that idea sounds in the first place) some of those bands (like Smashing Pumpkins, Garbage or The Offspring) would sell more festival and daily passes then, for example, Stormzy or Louis Tomlinson.
@Newjem, I think this is a good resume ^^
I 90% of the time agree with you man, but there is a WORLD between Sziget's line up and RW - Mad Cools' ones lol..
Being aware of some "bands cost" (sorry I don't know the english word or expression) in some French festivals, I can swear to you that Mad cool and Rock Werchter did spent way more money on their line up than Sziget so far.
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17 minutes ago, Newjem said:
and what names would make it a major festival? 🤔
well, take a look at the "opponents" , like Mad Cool, Rock Werchter, Glastonbury (when their line up will be available) .. it will give you an idea
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3 hours ago, nitschd said:
Yeah to me they are very recognizable at least and I'd love to see a few of those names
yep, "recognizable"... but average. Nice average names for an average festivaL.
We think (we thought) that Sziget was a Major Festival.
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3 hours ago, davidoffescassi said:
Lana del Rey & Catfish and the Bottlemen
(Speaking of "only popular in the U.K", ladies and gentlemen, Catfish and the Bottlemen ! 😄 )
Just so everyone realise lol : Catfish is 2.4M listenners/month. Aurora is 12M.
EVEN Mumford and Sons are more popular (10.5M/month). And we remember the small crowd last year at Sziget...
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10 hours ago, Llama Bronson said:
I really don't understand these complaints about these DJ announcements, which will be 100% sure Colosseum/Party Arena artists... What else you can expect on these electronic music stages? Strokes headlining Party arena? Biffy Clyro takes over Colosseum? In addition, have to say that these first phase DJs (Artbat, Richie, Honey Dijon, Dom Dolla, Argy..) are very strong bookings, IF you are in to these genres. If you are not, then why bother to complain about these Party Arena/Colosseum booking? 😃
many of these names will be at A38 stage...even last year, Sziget began to fill the A38 with dj's acts, more than before.
To me, Collosseum and Party Arena are enough for dj's, eletro music etc... so I would like Sziget to let the A38 stage out of this genre.
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10 hours ago, gfa said:
Are Snow Patrol and Keane meant to be examples of exciting names? 😂
Half of these are WELL past their sell by date
lol I let everyone judge those names 😅 , but at least these are BANDS, that I personnaly would prefer instead of Richie Hawtin, Honey Dijon, Dom Dolla, Anotr, ... dj's, dj's, and only dj's ... 😡🤬
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Biffy Clyro / Snow Patrol / Maneskin / Korn / Queens of the Stone Age / The Offspring / Idles / Keane / Motionless in White / Wet Leg / Pixies / Inhaler / ...
Here are some example of bands touring in Europe in August. And that's only the ones I'm aware of ! Because I believe many European acts could be available if they were asked.
My point is : Sziget 2024 is, so far, a Discount Edition. The new owners + the booker are f**king us up with their low line-up budget.
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32 minutes ago, Dukey said:
What are the chances of Sleep Token? Can’t see them being added to Download now..
euro tour planned for 2024, don't know about any festivals though
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On 11/21/2023 at 10:45 AM, Sziget2024_Leaks said:
Vibes.maybe I miss it, but can someoone tell me who this clue was related to ..?
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5 minutes ago, billybigballs said:
This will be our 4th visit to Sziget since 2019. We come from the UK as a family of 4. We stay in the city. This year, our flights, accommodation and festival tickets have cost us around £2000.
This is not a £2000 line-up.
Regarding who it appeals to, we had four different groups of people waiting on the line-up before deciding to come with us. Their details and responses are:
Couple, aged 48 and 32 - No
Family, aged between 42 and 9 - No
Three of my daughter's friends all aged 19 - No
Couple aged 33 and 29 - No
I really feel they need to get another announcement out as soon as possible because people are going to start choosing other festivals pretty damn quick.
Damn, I really feel sorry for you... We all expected way more from Sziget, the disappointment is huge... 😞
5 minutes ago, thetime said:With the relatively week werchter and mad cool lineups, the sziget headliners were always going to be weak.
to be honest, it's the undercard that disappoint and annoys me the most. Garrix and Fred Again.., even if we don't like them, they are headline material (but Stormzy is clearly not, I agree).
11 minutes ago, #1SzigetFan said:To be honest I wouldn't be so excited having Lana del Rey on the lineup and I guess that's because it still feels like her concert at Sziget was only 2 years ago. That's one of the pandemic effects on myself haha.
Rihanna isn't a great example btw, her show was one of the worsts I have ever seen at Sziget (and I go since 2015). She didn't come with a band and at least 90% of her concert was lip-syncing. I guess a real Rihanna live show was too expensive back then, so she was an example of another very bad booking but I can understand the logic behind it: both parties ignored the quality and both were milking the cash cow.
oh trust me lol, I agree with you, I'd hate to see Lana Del Rey again 😅 About Rihanna I can't tell, wasn't there, but at least they TRIED to book a huge, popular (and expensive !) act.
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P.S : no wonder why they don't talk about the fact that it is their 30th anniversary.. even THEM know that their line up suck.
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I understand why @Sziget2024_Leaks is afraid to come back here to read us. He/She is aware of the weakness of this announcement. Instagram comments are violents lol...
Truth is, BANDS are more expensive to book than SOLO artists, whether you like it or not. And since the Americans took control of Sziget, their line-up budget IS smaller year after year, that's a fact.
The example of Lana Del Rey is a proof : every festival who wanted her, HAVE her. Not Sziget. Same for Maneskin. Why that ? Because they have to "negociate" ... it's only a matter of money guys, which Sziget is not willing to give anymore.
And that PISSES ME OFF. Sziget use to be a great, even maybe the greatest festival in Europe. David Bowie, Prince back in the days... or even Rihanna, P!nk, Foo Fighters, Arctic Monkeys, they were all the bests of their categorys ! and Undercards were great !
Now it's only new names/solo names, which are cheaper than confirmed names/bands.
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3 hours ago, dhtjmnd12 said:
Bit of a long shot (I don’t know but they are supposedly announcing a Europe tour), could number 2 be AC/DC?
no way. They cost even more than Metallica (which is 3 millions), and Sziget dont put that much money anymore.
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1 minute ago, billybigballs said:
We only 'know' a quarter of the first line up announcement - less than 10 acts. I really wouldn't worry too much at this stage.
May you be right.. ! 🙏
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can't believe Stormzy is a headliner... with Sam Smith, that would be 2 names that aren't headline materials elsewhere..
well, sounds like a surprising "discount 30th birthday" to me ... + names like big thief, yard act, overmono.. these aren"t even "second zone" names...
This is the first time I'm afraid of the line-up lol.
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7 hours ago, SweetJesus said:
BFMV said they won’t tour in 2024. Breaking Benjamin rarely go on Europe tour, I think it happened only two times.
That’s not 100% accurate poster, but I hope most of the bands will be there.
jimmywe said announcement will follow soon, maybe week before Christmas
Indeed, Breaking Benjamin's lead singer has a phobia : planes... i think when he came to Europe, he took the boat (or am I wrong ?)
So I have doubts about that poster... but hey, who knows... that would be great though
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4 minutes ago, QuintenH said:
@Sziget2024_LeaksHow many from Pinkpop? 🙂
Sam Smith and Louis Tomlinson seems to be those
And about the Victorious, I remember last year at Rock en Seine WET LEG : the (big!) crowd made me think of Sziget , so... maybe ^^
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Biffy would have been so great... but the 18-23 don't know them 😕
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5 hours ago, Mondo-kun said:
To headline A38 - sure.
Not an artist for Sziget's target audience, but her new album had some good reviews, so not impossible.Yep, Kylie Minogue last album is quite good.. ! But as @kristofm said, I think that Sziget don't book this kind of artists anymore...sadly...
And with their "under 21 years old" offer, I'm really afraid of this fest' future for us lol.. (I'm 36 ^^)
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13 hours ago, So Sad Simon said:
On Thursday 7 December
Maneskin
The Killers
Fred Again..
Queens of the Stone Age
Timmy Trumpet
Hozier
Louis Tomlinson
Becky Hill
Pulp
PJ Harvey
Keane
Kenya Grace
Roisin Murphy
Khruangbin
Larkin Poe
Denzel Curry
Tom Odell
Young Fathers
Alvvays
The Kills
Nieve Ella
J Hus
Last Dinner Party
Azariah
Amelie Lens
Mariana Bo
Kaka
Lizzy Wang
Volac
(yep, that's "so sad simon" lol, the bullshiter from previous years guys. Dont believe him)
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22 minutes ago, Kaboom Boxer said:
That’s an absolutely fantastic line up. It has jumped right to the top of my August festival shortlist. When does this festival usually sell out?
daily tickets don't sell out too quickly. But 2 days, 3 days and mostly 4 days can sold out quite early..
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1 hour ago, 49Lawson said:
If they'd had Pulp instead of Maneskin (thought they might have, unsure where they'll play in France now?) this would have sold me a ticket. Other than The Offspring I haven't seen any of the top 3 lines and want to see all of them next year.
Pulp isn't that popular outside the U.K, but Maneskin is ^^
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Maneskin and The Hives are the 2 I'd take immediatly 😄
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lol you're not spamming, it's actually nice to see what the others fests' have planned ^^
Keane and London Grammar would be nice 🙂