steviewevie

maybe they're going to have to get MI5/FBI/Interpol involved in this Rayner investigation.

ciggie ban bill passed...bit of a tory rebellion though, liberal scum.

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sad

Farage always seems to be in the right place at the right time. This stupid police raid is a gift.

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DEEP STATE

a liberal fruitcake.

This use of liberal by lefties as a slur...not sure what they mean. Cheney used to also use it against the Democrats. There's social liberals which are all groovy and progressive and I guess on the left, and then there are economic liberals which are pro free market, less state intervention and on the right. The polling sweet spot in red wall seems to be both socially and economic illiberal. Liz Truss is a massive liberal, as is Rees Mogg. Blair, Johnson and Cameron quite liberal too. When comes to social stuff Owen Jones is a f**king huge liberal. Anti lockdown people were liberals. People who want to legalise drugs are liberals. People who want a smoking ban aren't. Anarchists and libertarians are uber liberal. As for The Guardian, quite liberal on social stuff, not that liberal on economic stuff.

ok...maybe they did...but you can't remember who said any of it because maybe the criticism from corbynites was not actually as vitriolic as you think...whereas everyone knows and hates Owen Jones.

definitely a victim of echo chambers...probably helped by her recent book publishing loveins on various maga/qanon gathering in the land of the free...whereas in the real world...

Definitely the OBR, not sure about the rest. I think Truss was pro immigration, she proper liberal libertarian neolib classical liberal.

I mean, maybe...it's up to them. If they are in opposition and choose a sh*t leader and lose an election, well...tough sh*t. I just don't think it should be members choosing when it is also for prime minister, I think that should be up to MPs who after all were elected, or have another general election.

what I struggle with is when it's freaky frothing tory party members choosing the prime minister.

unfinished business apparently

Liz Truss not ruling out running for Tory party leader again.

anyway, I can't remember any major complaints about Corbyn policy from anyone...there were some who thought he was a stupid choice for leader because he'd never win, but that changed after 2017 when Labour did a lot better than many expected. There were also some who were critical about the antisemitism thing, especially a couple of the jewish journalists. And then there were some who questioned his ability to do what was needed to win an election, and in the end they were proved right. Some of Labour's economic ideas were popular, nationalising utilities and railways, higher taxes for higher earners, scrapping tuition fees...all that sort of stuff...but they kept f**king up on social and security stuff...dumb reactions to salisbury poisonings, all his pacifist won't push the button thing, saying Churchill was a villain...etc.

doesn't everyone do that? Complain about stuff they don't agree with? That's why everyone apart from the left moan about Owen Jones.