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1 minute ago, DareToDibble said:
Wait until we see the new map. Then we can really start GrumbleFest 24.
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Especially if they touch my beloved Oxlyers.
Damn out of reactions 😊
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Can't help but notice this thread often being a grumble fest, rather than anything to do with 2024 site changes.
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1 hour ago, philipsteak said:
I've only ever voted by post
I've had postal for decades, much simpler and very handy.
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9 hours ago, incident said:
I'm not convinced that Carhenge was a cheap option. At least, not in Year One.
If it was just a straight chop and weld, that'd be one thing. But putting down foundations for it (as they seemingly have done) requires proper planning and a decent wedge of cash. I'd be very surprised if it came in any cheaper for 2023 than Williams Green would have. Where it potentially becomes cheaper is if they insist on persisting with it going forward.
I know many folks surmise that if they booked less popular acts the overcrowding before Friday would no longer have been an issue, but isn't it the case these days that anything can be a huge draw on those days and in this case the location being such a busy thoroughfare is what creates that potential for overcrowding?
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1 hour ago, fred quimby said:
f**k me, you lot really pay for your tickets. Muppets. I get in ever year for free. Last year I got in holding my breathe while submerged in a barrel of piss that was being transported across site.
I've read that twice and both times I lol'd (quietly obviously, it's late and I don't want to wake anyone up and explain why)
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8 hours ago, snailcheeks said:
Are there any toilet facilities or food stalls at all in the campervan section?
Yes, they tend to be the portaloo types and a proportion of them have those big containers nearby for folks to empty their van waste units into. There's also supplies of drinking water and along some of the tracks there are food vans - not as varied as those on site, but very welcome for some late night chips or a brew in the morning.
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Ooh another prompt for a discussion about carhenge?
I'll get my popcorn out 😉
They had to change WG for reasons, they had some spare cars as they were getting rid of an unused feature and freeing up some space for other things, they had a tiny budget so they made carhenge. Some folks like it, some don't, most agree it would be better if they featured more music played there.Anything I've missed?
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3 hours ago, BlueDaze said:
This thread is depressing for the ticketless…. ☹️
why did I even come here?To dissuade others from paying their balance surely?
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5 hours ago, Looother said:
It's my first Glastonbury at 49, having finally given up on finding a small festival with a line-up that looks like the West Holts, and I only got the tickets (through work) last week. So I'm currently obsessively researching. I've booked a hotel nearby for the Tuesday night. I've binned off my Green Man tickets. I've ordered some wellies. I've made an excellent playlist. I'm trying to decide if it's worth replacing a perfectly good tent with a new one that has blackout fabric. And I'm reading everything.
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1 hour ago, Simsy said:
More room for me and my picnic blanket down the front of the pyramid then. Don't know who anyone on the lineup is, but I'll film it all for my socials - got to get the likes
Excellent, save a space for my chairs
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4 hours ago, pablowoods said:
You've got prodigy, massive attack, air, grace Jones, echo and the bunnymen all playing round this time... mad to not have any of them on board. Maybe too 'dangerous' for a line up that seems to be aimed at 12 year olds and whimsical picnic blanket crowd
Clearly your definition of edgy is to put it politely open to interpretation - surely it should include something more contemporary?
Otherwise Prodigy and Air don't really have a GSH, plus the latter is clearly a complicated show to stage, Massive Attack are doing their own thing and isn't Grace Jones usually a bit tricky to get signed up?
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2 hours ago, Memory Man said:
The main area of issue is the sheer number of boring repeat bookings, but also these are “friends of the festival” ie those that will do it for 4 cans and a bag of crisps - ie those you need to lean on when budgets are tight.
and as has rightly been said, this is only an issue for regulars.
As above, that only bothers some regulars.
This is my 31st in a row and it's not a concern to me, as it never has been for earlier decades whenever it's happened.
A quick and dirty count there are what 85ish places listed in the 2023 Clashfinder, so always plenty on to suit even my aged and ill informed tastes at any time 🙂-
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5 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:
Normally she's outside my bedroom window with a loudhailer hyping me up about Elbow.
Maybe she wouldn't need the loudhailer if you'd throw those curtains wide?
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Pretty sure I've been to the festival more than all those that have thus far contributed to this thread and I don't share the sentiment about the line up, already plenty I'd like to see and that list will massively fill out.
As ever there were some acts hoped for which have played before and would have delighted others, but I'd have just shrugged at, so I don't pine for them.
I come from the olden days when there were two stages for and many of the acts on the second one were not well known. Also there were often some acts on the Pyramid who had played before.
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1 hour ago, tarw said:
?? The Levels and the whole of Silver Hayes generally. There have been a lot of changes. They might not excite you but I’m sure some have been excited by them.
Don’t forget that a lot of people will be going for the first time or after a long break. It’s just us regulars that have seen it all before.51 minutes ago, stuie said:The effect of covid losses and rampant inflation - many areas had their field budgets frozen. Don't forget lots of festivals have gone out of business since 2019 - staying alive trumps innovation during these tough times. But that said, we did get The Levels and all new Silver Hayes.
37 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:YMMV on it, but Joe Rush got a whole new area last year.
There have certainly been changes in several areas, as outlined above. Some like them others less so.
As for the festival itself, plenty of folks are very hyped for it and that's before the individual stage posters kick off during the next week or two (based on previous years).
If you're not feeling it, then you should look into your heart 😊
And we definitely shouldn't be having speculative discussions about MEs health, it's a touch crass imho
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8 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:
Which neatly brings me on to something I read at the weekend. From an A level politics student and really rather good......
Tis long mind
"A minority party is a political party whose electoral strength plays a smaller role than the mainstream parties in a country’s politics and elections. Smaller political parties have been a long-standing feature of the British political landscape at both national and local levels. The 350 political parties, and other political organisations add a richness and depth to politics that has an impact on democracy and representation beyond the limited success they achieve at the ballot box, both locally and nationally. The limitations of minority parties comes in many forms, FPTP being the most important but also English Votes For English Laws (EVEL) prevents them partially to have an impact and an inability sometimes to get their policy initiatives into the mainstream. While politics at all levels in the UK are dominated by the main three parties, small parties have been a persistent challenger to those parties and have consistently offered the voter a choice beyond the mainstream. This essay will argue that although minor parties are disproportionately under-represented, they have been increasingly popular in recent years and thus, are of growing significance in British Politics.It is clear that minority parties can be influential in British politics due to the clarity of their position on single issues. As many minority political parties are single-issue parties, their focus on a specific political agenda means voters may support such parties because they consider the core-issue of that party of vital importance and are less concerned that other policy aspects are not fully developed. UKIP is an example of such a minority party with its focus on anti-EU policies, it is undoubtedly one of the most eurosceptic parties in Britain and can be considered as one of the major manifestations of the UK’s challenge to Europeanisation. Their growing influence over the British populous was evident through their historic victory in the 2014 European Parliamentary Elections by winning a large number of UK seats. Those 24 seats made UKIP the biggest UK party in the European Parliament, this makes it a challenge to the main political parties and to the British political system as a whole. Also UKIP secured 3.9 million votes in the 2015 general election, although it only achieved one seat. UKIPs success at the European level demonstrates that minor parties have the ability to influence voters with their clear and direct manifesto, unlike the majority parties who have a much more obscure agendas. UKIPs increasing popularity over the years strengthened the party as a fundamental catalyst for the 2015 EU Referendum and the ‘victory’ of Brexit, thus proving that minor party ideology has permeated the agenda of the mainstream parties who are conscious of their electoral successes.
Despite the previous argument, it is obvious that minority parties have little impact on British Politics because they are disproportionately under-represented by the FPTP electoral system. The FPTP electoral system creates a two-party system designed to create a strong majority in government, thus does not favour minority parties. Minority parties with extreme views, that is, parties likely to damage the democratic system and create further division, are overlooked by the system. Therefore, under FPTP, there is reduced competition between the two main parties in order to suppress political radicalism, amongst other reasons. The disproportionate nature of the FPTP system was demonstrated in the 2015 General Election, as UKIPs 3.8 million votes and similarly, The Green Party’s 1.1 million votes were translated into only one MP in Parliament each. Therefore, the existence and activities of small parties outside of the main three and outside Westminster does not allow alternative opportunities for citizen engagement and participation. This is significant as it has exposed the limitations of the FPTP system, it illustrates that the two-party system does not effectively represent minority parties at Westminster and subsequently, a clear and fair variation of public opinion. Thus, it is evident that although minority parties are popular amongst the British electorate they do not have a large impact due to the FPTP electoral system as they are unable to gain real traction in Parliament and so cannot make drastic changes.
Contrastingly, minor parties are incredibly important and effective in representing the views and opinions of the electorate from the devolved nations. As the minority government in Scottish Parliament, the SNP has support from 45% of the Scottish population. This demonstrates SNP as an important minority party at a devolved level in in British politics. In 2014, the Independence Referendum drummed up passionate nationalist sentiment, whilst the motion to seceded was defeated, that feeling has not gone away. These nationalist views are reflected through the popularity of the minor party SNP. Nicola Sturgeon’s strategy on independence has no doubt energised SNP support and increased the turnout of their voters. Therefore, in the 2015 General Election there was a great success for SNP, which won 48 of the 59 seats in Scotland at Westminster, marking them the third party. The party now controls four-fifths of the Scottish seats, a much higher proportion than Boris Johnson’s Conservatives won across the UK. The SNP surge creates a major headache for the UK prime minister. It is reminiscent of 1987, when Margaret Thatcher won big across the UK but lost more than half the Conservative seats in Scotland – the ‘doomsday scenario’ as it came to be known. That year the Conservative number of seats fell from 21 to 10 in Scotland; this time it’s down from 13 to six. The SNPs landslide victory places the minor party firmly in the centre of Westminster, where the Scottish population can be equally recognised. Thus, it shows that minority parties can gain influence over governments overtime through the weakness of main parties who do not win an outright majority. Minor parties can greatly influence British politics either as part of an official coalition or through voting agreements. Therefore, demonstrating that minor parties do not need to have equal amount of support as main parties to be able to rally substantial support. They are increasingly considered a direct threat to major political parties and subsequently, are able to significantly impact British politics from the UK Parliament.
Despite this, the issue of devolution has demonstrated that although Scotland has gained more devolution, the inability for Scottish parties to be heard in Parliament leaves millions of the UK electorate voiceless. This is because governments in devolved nations do not hold equal weight in Westminster. Such as the SNP, who has formed a minority government in Scottish Parliament, but they are only considered a minor party in UK Parliament. Thus, it is evident that Scottish minority parties may have impact in the devolved nations but not enough in UK parliament. This was demonstrated in the 2015 EU Referendum, Scotland voted in favour of the UK staying the EU by 62% to 38%- with all 32 council ares backing Remain. Although Scotland had delivered a strong, unequivocal vote to remain in the EU, the UK left the EU. As Scotland’s vote in the EU Referendum was sidelined and ignored by the Westminster establishment, it demonstrates that the position on minors parties from the devalued nations are constantly undermined. As Westminster still retains control of ‘reserved powers’ such as defence, foreign policy and constitutional matters, Scotland want to gain full independence by becoming ‘detached’ from Westminster and the British governing system. Also the Cameron government passed the English Votes for English Laws legislation which restricts the ability of devolved parties to amend bills as they go through parliament. EVEL was designed to resolve the West Lothian Question, although it still gives Scottish and Welsh parties the right to vote on the final version of the bill. Therefore, it is clear that despite minority parties ability to form governments in their devolved nations, it is incredibly difficult to have an impact in the UK Parliament. Thus, it is clear that in devolved nations, minor parties may have political significance in their devolved powers yet they have relatively little impact on British politics.
Finally, smaller parties can act to galvanise political opinion and activity that may be focused on a more precise set of political objectives than those of the big three. Small political parties serve to fill a gap in political representation; a gap which occurs because the mainstream, major national parties increasingly appear to fail to adequately represent the diverse range of views and interests that make up the political dynamic at national, regional and local levels. This can be said for the minor political party the Green Party, who have been able to spark an interest, particularly in the younger demographic, on the issue of climate change. Environmental concerns are becoming a priority for the electorate, with millions of young people across the world protesting this year demanding climate action. The increase in awareness of climate change has been reflected in the growing support for the Green Party. In the 2019 European Parliament election, the Green Party won 12% of the vote in the European elected and electing 7 MEPs. The number of people voting Green increased by 40% from 2017. This illustrates a growing recognition in the single-issue political agenda of the Green Party, which has been disregarded by major parties.
Smaller parties may, over time, radically transform attitudes towards particular issues, thereby forcing the main parties to policy-poach. While the Greens remain a small party on the national stage it is possible to say of the main three parties that they are all green now. Thus, relevance, for UK small parties is related more to policy-poaching than having actual political position. This can be seen through the adoption of green policies throughout the major political parties such as the 2019 Conservative manifesto promise of reaching the net zero emissions by 2050. It is evident that the Green Party has helped push green issues towards the top of the political agenda and forced the major parties to address them. Therefore, it is clear that minor parties do not need coalitions or majorities to make a change in Parliament but through major parties policy-poaching can bring their agenda into the UK Parliament.
In conclusion, although there are numerous obstacles for minor political parties, the most detrimental is the FPTP electoral system. Despite this, their ability to not only to provide the voter with alternatives at election time, but to influence the behaviour of the established parties as well as increase awareness and popularity for particular causes. Minor parties do not need to rely on coalitions to be influential in Westminster, as smaller parties produce new ways for political accountability as they are able to focus on issues ignored by the main parties. Thus, minor parties play a significant role in British politics as they can encourage the realignment of issues as the main parties adapt their policy agenda to the newly emerging issues"
I stopped reading because they did two things that annoyed me I'm afraid.
Firstly conflated the FTPT with the kippers doing well in the EU elections, which clearly they only did because of PR. It's not for nothing that Farage has failed to become an MP 7 times.
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26 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
MP for Blackpool South has quit...so another by-election. Easy Reform win? 😉
Easy, with FPTP? 🤔
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8 minutes ago, gigpusher said:
I think being subheadliner on a main stage last time will be what counts them out. They've not had any new material since so much as i love them I think it's a no chance on them being back.
More importantly, they know you've seen them recently and therefore they may not make the cut for your clashfinder, therefore why even bother? 😉
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On 3/24/2024 at 11:42 AM, Twiggy553 said:
He also now thinks the Troubles in Northern Ireland was a war fought by Zombies after i made a ham-fisted attempt at explaining the Cranberries song to him 🤦♂️
That's gonna be an interesting future parent's evening 😂
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3 hours ago, chickenfire said:
Hard to say if that counts them in or out, that's a long jaunt for either Fri or Sun?
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8 hours ago, faymondo said:
I was on a PAYG sim on the farm last year so only 4g max.
Now have a monthly contract but still to pick up 5G on it anywhere in Liverpool ??
The PAYG sim didn't include 5g? That in itself would have been a great reason to get a lebara on offer for a quid or so per month.
Dunno if it's changed, this refers to data sims or PAYG plus (which in 5g)?
https://www.vodafone.co.uk/mobile/sim-only
I've been to Liverpool recently, lots in the docks, but also in the city up to cathedral, confident I had 5g Voda on at least some of that. Can you check the phone somehow?
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10 hours ago, incident said:
Disagree with this almost entirely.
It was excellent last year - the only minor issues I noticed were just before Elton started, and that was with 150k+ all crammed into the Pyramid field so forgivable. But prior to that and especially in 2022 I felt that it got worse year on year - which could just be that they made the same provision, but usage increased. I came away from 2022 fully intending to make sure I was on EE the following year, and would have done so if Voda hadn't taken over the contract.
One consideration would be that I didn't have a 5G capable phone in those years so that may make a difference.
Would certainly agree that Vodafone performance was specifically better in 23, as you say for known reasons as they added nine new masts - https://www.vodafone.co.uk/newscentre/press-release/mobile-data-demand-skyrockets-at-glastonbury-2023/
3 hours ago, faymondo said:I have a second Vodafone sim that worked better at Glastonbury and when O2 fails (a lot of the time) still haven't found 5g on that though.
Are you saying that in 2023 your Vodafone sim didn't pick up a 5g signal on the farm? As I certainly did and performance was great, with the only exception being such as when incident described, during massive crowds, which I believe is why it's affected.
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12 minutes ago, tarw said:
So much more bizarre innit, the synopsis is crazy
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Fantastic result, even more than last year 🍾