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31 minutes ago, LJS said:
The flaw is in the question. No one is claiming anything via any blood & soil. We are claiming something based on a democratic mandate. I have demonstrated beyond any doubt that only nutters share your belief that the Scottish independence movement is anything to do with blood & soil.
Hang out with the nutters if you feel more at home there. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously.
Sturgeon says "Scotland is a country" and claims a greater right to self determination when she says it.
WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND????
THERE IS NO GREATER RIGHT TO NATIONHOOD VIA HISTORY FOR ANYTHING CIVIC.
It only means something towards the blood and soil which created the ancient Scotland.
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5 minutes ago, LJS said:
There is only one knowing liar here & it ain't me.
And as for the soup: you're in it on this issue.
Sad when you can never admit you are wrong.
How can I be wrong when you've given nothing to show me as wrong?
I keep asking you to tell me the civic in claiming a greater right to self-determination via the blood and soil of historic tribal Scotland.
But you never do.
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1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said:
Have you been given this as an exclusive, Neil?
when do Glastonbury give me exclusives...?
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27 minutes ago, LJS said:
Nothing to say about the soup?
the soup that's your brain? I've said it often. Thick as pigshit or a knowing liar.
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3 minutes ago, LJS said:
Yes poll win would put Scotland in EU fast-lane, academics claim
They're talking bollocks says mam who runs festival website.academics claim, while the EU writes the Scottish Govt letters making clear it's bollocks.
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43 minutes ago, LJS said:
Scotland is a nation (I'm sure you used to say country) is a simple statement.
It is.
But that's not how sturgeon uses it. :rolleyes:
Deflection, again.
She uses it to claim a greater right of self-determination. Even comfy mentioned it above.
There's no greater right of self-determination due to history, unless you recognise the blood and soil ancient nation as meaningful.
You don't half talk some bollocks in trying to deflect away from the truth.
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16 hours ago, LJS said:
I've told you clearly every time you've asked.
You never once have.
16 hours ago, LJS said:Here's someone else to tell you - hes Associate Professor of Development Studies in the Department of International Development at the LSE (or was when this was written whcih was jsut before the referendum but nothing has changed since to make it any less true/.
That merely gives his opinion on Scottish indy as a whole. It may or may not be right.
Nothing of what he says addresses the specific thing of Sturgeon saying "Scotland is a country" or what it might mean.
by you posting this irrelevant bollocks,, you're either showing you're too thick to understand what's being discussed, or you get it and you're trying to deflect with stuff that doesn't address what's been raised. Only you know if you're mindnumbingly thick or trying to deflect (and if you think it's neither, that's because you're mindnumbingly thick).
I don't think you're that thick. So I can only conclude you know there's no lie you won't push for the glory of Scotland ... which is back to that blood and soil (more than civic, anyway), this time from you.
16 hours ago, LJS said:Or how about our old pal, Billy Bragg
Or Here's Alex Massie in the Spectator - no friend of the SNP (my emphasis)
I guess they'll all be wrong & you'll be right.
How about you show you've brain enough to address the specific doing of Sturgeon, deflector?
What is the 'civic' within "Scotland is a nation"?
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17 hours ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:
So apart from their height, can you pick up on this Neil when you have a mo.
Either way it will make your own view clear and prevent any misrepresentation.
Im not talking about the eejits who exist on both sides, I'm interested in your own personal view on this.
she's a blood and soil nationalist, same as Hilter. Each time she says "Scotland is a country" she proves it.
There's a lot of other differences, tho.
No doubt you'll try to pretend that's bollocks, but first you'll have to tell me what the 'civic' is in "Scotland is a country".
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17 hours ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:
As far as I'm aware, Sturgeon has to state the obvious.....Scotland is a Country.....because people keep putting it to her that some city in England also voted remain.
PMSL - blood and soil!!!
Being "a country" means absolutely fuck all to a civic campaign for independence, which is based *solely* on self-determination.
History means fuck all towards 'civic'. Invoking that country's past as a blood and spoil nation is to invoke blood and soil.
In the civic world, London has *exactly* the same rights of self determination as Scotland.
In the blood and soil world, Scotland's history as a blood and soil nation means something extra.
What don't you understand about "scotland is a country" meaning fuck all to 'civic'?
17 hours ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:Its an obvious response to what seems a pretty silly question. I've seen her asked it a lot and that is her stock answer.
It's an obvious blood and soil response.
17 hours ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:Unprompted by dumb questions, her current line of the type of Country she wants Scotland to be is the exact opposite of the picture her haters want to paint.
So why does she keep invoking blood and soil?
If she doesn't mean blood and soil she should stop going on about it.
And you shouldn't be so fucking thick to be blind to it.
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21 minutes ago, LJS said:
Hitler was 5' 9" That's not that short!
and 10% isn't much of a deficit.
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4 minutes ago, LJS said:
None of us have ever suggested there are no indy supporters who may well fit you "blood & soil" nonsense. You are not applying to them. You are applying to Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP.
blood and soil applies to Sturgeon because she regularly goes blood and soil: "Scotland is a country" and claims greater rights by it.
If that's wrong, tell me what the civic is in that.
You never do.
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8 minutes ago, sevillian03 said:
Hopefully the last weekend in March. I'm in NYC the weekend before and London the week after.
The 26th March is also the date Run The Jewels were supposed to be playing Glasgow, according to a tweet from the O2 ABC.
Thanks.
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19 minutes ago, sevillian03 said:
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15102476.Glasgow_to_host_BBC_6_Music_Fest/
It's Glasgow according to the local chip wrappers.
no dates, tho.
Can prolly work it out by looking at which of the more-major venues have a fri/sat/sun with nothing booked in.
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Just now, comfortablynumb1910 said:
Can we come back to this specific point to save further confusion please ?
They're both short.
FFS
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26 minutes ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:
They are your words made across several posts. There are loads more but if you're saying they are all out of context then fair enough. If you think that I support Indy because I hate England then fair enough.
You still appear to end this mornings post with more of this flag holding stuff which probably contributes to me not being able to understand the words that you continuously put in front of me about your conclusions / views.
If you think support for Indy is based on racism or hatred then say that.
Do you honestly think none of it is?
You take mention of that specific part as applying to all, and self-invent the insult you see.
26 minutes ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:If you think there are similarities between Sturgeon and Hitler or Scotland and nazi germany then why not make that clear either way. That would obviously prevent me from quoting you out of context.
It's LJS who keep posting the Hilter stuff, not me. He can't differentiate blood & soil nationalism from nazism.
26 minutes ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:As I've said before, I wouldn't insult your intelligence by thinking that your choice of the blood and soil reference is a mere coincidence ;-)
I used that phrase because it's Sturgeon's own reference to blood and soil. FFS.
Sturgeon is invoking ancient Scotland, and claiming a greater right by it. That ancient Scotland is one formed in blood and soil.
If I'm wrong, tell me what the civic is in "Scotland is a country"?
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8 minutes ago, LifeBegins@What??? said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08frhj2 It's roughly 2hr 39 mins he mentioned it...
thanks
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3 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:
A Self confirmation from Craig Charles only gets an SR - them TBC's not getting dished out as easily now
If you want to direct me to the right part of his show where he said it so I can check the claim above, it'll get a TBC
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10 hours ago, LJS said:
And before I depart for the night, here are the latest numbers
When 44% of no voters believe none or most of the Better together campaign's promises have been broken, there might just be a glimmer of hope that folk will exercise a bit more scepticism next time round when they say voting yes will take us out of the EU (Oops, they can't say that) well voting yes will destroy shipbuilding jobs (oops...in today's news looks like they're going) OK then voting yes will mean we lose inland revenue jobs (Oh they've gone already have they?)
And so on
And yet there's all that broken trust, and indy still can't take a lead in the polls.
For indy to be better, to beat that broken trust, the SNP have to be trusted to be able to deliver on their own claims.
I've little doubt that if a real case could be made for the finances to stand up, Scotland would be indy in a heartbeat. The problem is those awkward facts which keep getting in the way.
PS: some jobs might have gone, but you might also notice ever-falling unemployment rates. And also, after indy, MORE jobs might go.
Just because the real world might be a bit shit, it doesn't get to mean that all alternatives are better.
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10 hours ago, LJS said:
And before I depart for the night, here are the latest numbers
What that reveals more than anything is that either a significant number of Scots are entirely politically ignorant, or they can't answer a question honestly.
It's probably a mixture of both, tho based on my often said thing of 50% of the electorate (any electorate) being politically stupid, it's probably mostly the first.
Because while the others are largely a matter of opinion, only the entirely ignorant or deliberately lying could say none have been kept.
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10 hours ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:
I suspect you entered this indy debate with your conclusions already drawn. I accept that you see it this way. Many other folks on both sides don`t feel the level of hate that you seem to and none I`ve met are reduced to posts like you`ve made above or the stuff around blood and soil. I think we both know why you regularly choose that form of words when talking about the SNP.
those quotes are taken out of context.
You're so fixated on finding something for grievance that you can't even read and understand the words right in front of you.
Those quotes are pointing out that the dream of indy will not be the reality of indy, and so those will end up as the only 'good' parts in some people's minds. The rest will have no good parts.
Perhaps that's not applicable to someone of your mindset - I can't say I've really grasped what you think is so great now you're admitting you'd be voting yourself much poorer - but LJS got into supporting indy because he said he believed it would deliver a better deal for Scotland's poor ... and because it's clear it cannot do that, it can only make them poorer still, all he's left holding is a flag.
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12 hours ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:
Lol. As Im pretty hopeful you already know, that is not what I think at all.
I think Scotland will continue to be an outward looking kinda place.
expecting others to give your country its defence is not that, nor it will it be looked on as that by other countries.
After all, the thoughts around not being in nato isn't to do with some sort of principled objection to it (as Ireland has with its permanent official stance as neutral), but purely because you're looking to save money, and realise you can get nato's defence for free, and other mugs - yep, it would be calling other countries mugs - to foot the bill for you.
The SNP fucked themselves up on that one, when the glint of power was much more attractive than principles. Can't be undone, indyref1 was held with a nato commitment. The only way a future iScotland might claim neutrality as a principle now would be if indy were achieved by a party other than the SNP.
12 hours ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:On the military front I was thinking about our lack of support for various wars and our lack of desire for the nukes.
Ah yeah, I forgot you're special snowflakes about Iraq, and all Scots and only Scots objected at the time. There's no revision of history going on here, oh no.
And even with regard to nukes, a very large part of the objection is not the nukes themselves, but the fact that they're 'here' and not 'there', or that 'they're sited 25m from a city. England wouldn't do that' (wrong), or even 'that's money that could be spent on Scotland' ... and even then there's barely a majority against.
But yes, like you i fully expect an indy Scotland to throw off those costs, so there's only another £6Bn* of cuts to specify. Next?
(* to cover 'the deficit gap', not the whole deficit).
12 hours ago, comfortablynumb1910 said:I think you might be right about the world police types being unionists. There is a reason that Ruth is continuously pictured riding a tank while wrapped in the union flag. I'm glad we agree on something :-)
It's an attitude that's quite central to traditional toryism, but there's also always been a strong 'militaristic' bloc within Labour too - and the snippers are the same people. They didn't necessarily drop those things when switching allegiance to the SNP.
Just as 40% of SNP voters showed themselves aligned with kippers over brexit.
People like you want to pretend that all indy supporters are some sort of special human, with none of the traits you dislike. It's simply not true. They're imperfect people, just as you're being by thinking they're all so 'perfect'.
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18 minutes ago, LJS said:
Look mate, I'm never going to accept even my own evidence. Nicola has a free pass for ever and for everything
And every time you bring up this nonsense, I will be too busy blowing her kisses.
corrected for you.
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10 minutes ago, LJS said:
Who knows? Personally I think your first bit about the majority of folk that would give a shit are voting no anyway is about right
We'll never know..
For me I'm happy being in the club so long as we don't have to obey the rules
well, we might know if comfy's suggestion is pursued by indy2.
As we've already discussed, it's getting tougher to avoid playing to nato's rules.
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6 minutes ago, LJS said:
Because when Sturgeon says "Scotland is a country" she is saying it is "an association of people with equal and shared political rights, and an allegiance to similar political procedures. The nation is a political entity, inclusive and liberal."
Thank you.
No.
When she says "Scotland is a country" she's claiming a greater right than others to nationhood. She's used in that exact way when it's been suggested to her that London or Yorkshire might also be independent.
She is making that claim from ancient history, and not anything that might be inclusive and modern.
6 minutes ago, LJS said:Ah these Tory cuts that you took great pleasure in pointing out has not reduced Scotland's revenue. Some cuts. Some maths.
have not reduced the SG's spending, despite cuts.
The right words are important for the truth.
6 minutes ago, LJS said:What a spectacular misinterpretation of what Comfy said. i bet you though t you were being dead clever.
But that's exactly what it is. Ireland is thought less important than it might otherwise be on the world stage precisely because it has an insular attitude towards defense much as comfy was suggesting for Scotland.
6 minutes ago, LJS said:The Yes campaign last time round was largely about trying to reassure people that not much would change - same currency , same Queen, still in the EU, still in NATO - in other words - nothing to worry about, it's no big deal. Whether that was smart or not, we will never know. I would hope the YES campaign will be more radical next time around.
People's concern is change, because not all change is good.
So I doubt radical would have the effect you hope.
The Dirty Independence Question
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why do i have to correctly state something that I've already correctly stated?
You mean there's no anti-english racists supporting Scottish indy?
My thinking is fine. It's not me dismissing the facts.
You know, like Sturgeon invoking the ancient blood and soil Scotland.
No, that's your own hatred making you see only that. :rolleyes:
I agree.
But Sturgeon still invokes blood and soil when she claims a greater right to new nationhood via "Scotland is a country".