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It's a non starter this argument. People were discharged from hospitals in open spaces where people are clinically vulnerable back into care homes where they can isolate, and where people aren't extremely unwell. If anything more funding should have been chucked at ensuring safety in care homes rather than increased testing capacity 

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1 hour ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Of course they're not.

They must be. How is the peak going to be twice the size when we're probably approaching herd immunity. And if its cases only but not hospitalizations who the fuck cares. 

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Chances that those who bought tickets for this event get priority for any potential event in September? 

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1 hour ago, thewayiam said:

I really don't know why people ignored the *at the earliest so much.

Sums it up. Wasn't the positive rate for the Liverpool gig 10%?, if so that's 600 from 6000 turned away. Added to that our vaccine roll out overall has been awful.

My answer to do with the pilot results of positives is they aren't. Are we going to have people turning up to be turned away even with refunds for every event. The disappointment for those people.

This basically. Exactly this. The testing they are using has proved to not be anywhere close to as reliable as they would want it. It's vaccine plus 3 weeks but yea you are on the right lines. 

You should be looking at basically no deaths for total normality.

So if one person with multiple comorbidities dies, but happened to test positive as an inpatient, we should remain in lock down? 🤣

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2 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

Lots of rules defy logic at the moment really. I just find them funny now.

I think the wearing masks between equipment at the gym rule is up there with the most bizarre.

Luckily my gym has no mask wearing and that tape has gone from the floor along with the requirement to wipe down every piece of equipment after use. Currently a haven of normality. 

 

At the peak I was 100% behind restrictions and feel at times we should have gone further. What they're suggesting after June is madness

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Full bars but they expect people to wear masks and follow a one way system 😂 I'm done with this shit. Just waiting for everyone else to realise this pandemics over and rules like this beyond June are dumb

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36 minutes ago, jparx said:

I hope we get a decent outcome from these talks the next couple of days. At this stage I’d be in favour of EU taking extra supply of vaccines. If it means UK under 40s wait a bit longer for their first dose but allows the EU to catch up, I’d happily wait until later in the summer for mine. We’ve known this all along, but “it’s not over until it’s over everywhere” has really crystallised in recent weeks. The priority should be reducing the damage of this third wave as much as possible. I won’t die of Covid if I get it, so yes please do give my vaccine to a older person in Germany! Global deaths are equally important to UK deaths at the end of this thing.

Some of the EU countries really do need to go on a marketing blitz to big up the AZ shot though. We need Macron on live tele drinking a pint of it or something.

Fair enough but what's the point if its going to sit in a fridge 

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So when they say no restrictions from 21st June? 

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19 minutes ago, st dan said:

I also will of course be taking the vaccine when offered, but I don’t think you can just dismiss those people that fall into the bolded category. Basically, every person under the age of 40 may be concerned about the vaccine if they are trying to conceive, or are planning to do so in the future. No conclusive study has been carried out yet to confirm that the vaccines will have no impact to this (although I’m sure that’s a formality). But each person does have the right to make their own decisions in line with their own thought process, however ‘wrong’ that might appear to some.  

There are a lot of people that aren’t ‘anti-vaxers’ but are slightly cautious at this stage, so early in the life of these vaccines. I believe to essential alienate them from society would be morally wrong. However those that that won’t take it because they don’t want Bill Gates to track them can get in the bin. 

But there are studies showing that covid effects fertility, even in mild/moderate cases. They think this is likely only a short term effect as with other viruses but they don't know. Given the fact that covid has been shown to have lasting effects on different bodily systems I wouldn't be so sure that it doesn't have a lasting impact on fertility. 

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10 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Literally any major country in Europe could offer to host the full Euros, if the stadiums don't have to be full.

All European countries will have people in stadiums by June...just not full ones...and the UK won't be able to have full stadiums by June either. 

Given the combination of slow procurement and more vaccine hesitancy in Europe I'd be surprised if even the vulnerable have been sufficiently vaccinated in Europe by the summer. In contrast the UK will have offered the entire population at least one jab which is highly protective against sever illness / hospitalisation in itself. 

 

I don't think we will have full capacity but it would make sense to host the whole thing

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6 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

So there's the first minister of wales saying no normality this year AND the PM of Ireland telling you hospitality middle of summer, yet people think there will be some kind of Euros boom in England? Whatever Boris says on Monday is a lie to win votes in May. We aren't getting anything good for a while yet. 

Not a conspiracy theory, just what the scientists will want. And probably the right thing to do, it's just very hard to accept losing another year especially on a festival forum 

At what point do you feel we should have no restrictions? 

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2 hours ago, zahidf said:

 

Some will say we still need restrictions lol

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43 minutes ago, Smeble said:

Even if the pandemic is raging on? You do realise the vaccines aren’t a cure?

I do but the level of protection from severe disease should drastically reduce deaths. I'm not for living under this shit when the hospitals are empty

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If restrictions continue to be in place once everyone has been offered a vaccine I'll be more inclined to believe lunatics who said that the whole thing is a nefarious scheme to increase government control over the population

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1 minute ago, MrBarry465 said:

Things will ease this year, but large scale events and packed nightclubs will not be on the agenda. 

I think there will be a push for 'some' larger scale events that will suit the tories. I can see some crowds at euros for example. We'll definitely be able to do more than meet a couple of friends in a park at the height of summer as suggested by the article though 

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1 minute ago, MrBarry465 said:

Yes and look at what having less restrictions last summer then led to?

They will not take any gambles now that the vaccine is here, the government won't risk fucking this up. I will guarentee the move back to normality will be much slower this year. There is no chance festivals, nightclubs or any packed spaces will be up and running this year

But they've consistently fucked up throughout. Vaccines will massively reduce hospital admissions which is only more likely to make them push for normality. If you don't open this summer you won't next summer either as there won't be any difference. 

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41 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

 

Realistic, not some sort of hopium fetishism. 

It states that there is hope for meeting a couple of friends outdoors in a park. There were less restrictions last summer without a vaccine. As previously stated. Pessimistic rubbish

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19 minutes ago, Mellotr0n said:

I think there will be enough incentives to get the vaccines - unable to do certain social things without - that it won't be an issue.

I get what you're saying, but I think there could also be a big backlash in being seen to "force" young, healthy people to be vaccinated.

If its necessary to get flights etc I definitely think that would work but is also likely to see a backlash where people feel corned into taking it. 

I'm just suggesting that its probably best to offer specific dates / times for ease which will increase uptake. But of course highlighting that it is optional at the same time. 

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46 minutes ago, Mellotr0n said:

Sir Simon Smith of the NHS intimated yesterday that once any priority groups are done (ie all over-50s, and key workers/higher risk/higher contact individuals) that there will come a time where rather than being called forward, we will be told we can then book in to get a jab if we want one.

Think this would be a bad move. People do stuff when it's simplified.

Come here on this date at this time and they're more likely to do it. 

Ring this number / fill out this form / go to this website and people are much less likely to bother 

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13 minutes ago, aj6658 said:

You reckon there will be festivals this summer? Think your other predictions were sound but personally I can't see summer being back to normal. Literally need every restriction lifted and I can't see that happening . If I can't have a beer with 10 of my mates without masks then I can't see a festival going ahead 

There's a vaccine which everyone will have been offered by mid summer. 

This peak is much earlier than the one we had last year where cases dropped pretty rapidly in the summer months

I pretty much based my predictions on the 1918 flu which was over within a couple of years. People never learn from history

There might be some restrictions early summer like mask wearing indoors etc but there's literally no need to maintain this once everyone's been offered a vaccine. 

 

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It's not going to take until 2024 to get back to normal 😂 back in February I suggested this virus was likely to kill at least 100,000 in the UK to my friends and family. I was labelled a conspiracy theorist. At the same time I predicted a decline in the summer and then said the peak would double in winter because of lock down fatigue. I also said we'd be back to normal by summer 2021. Now I'm no mystic but I'm backing myself to be right again. Anything to suggest we won't be back to normal for a few years yet is just not logical. I'm screenshotting this and will repost from a festival this summer

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I have a real feeling that opening at Christmas has fucked us here. You can't go ahead with the terrible numbers atm but it will be almost non existent by June 

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1 minute ago, swede said:

It’s like Vallance said in his Q&A, we need 70+% of the population to be vaccinated to see the effects, plus at the same time hospital admissions and deaths need to drop to see any loosening of restrictions. 
 

Its been reported approx 25% of hospital admissions this time round are under 50, that’s the last groups in terms of age to be vaccinated 

Let's be real. This year is not going to be worse than last (at least for covid) and infections are going to fall off a cliff as we approach the summer. Remember the peak was April last year, not January. 

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@Toilet Duck I've just had my first dose of the Pfizer jab a couple of days ago, having no idea about the government's extended 12 week plan for the second dose. Do you foresee any efficacy or safety concerns with this given that the technology is different to the Oxford jab?