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mattiloy

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  1. 3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

    I think Sweden closed high schools and Unis...

    Covid lockdowns were most probably a factor, keeping young people isolated can't be good, but there is a lot of other stuff going on too.  I expect the future looks pretty bleak for many young people at moment - and they're just getting blasted with addictive and sometimes very damaging social media crap constantly.


    Schools were mostly open.

    But yeah kids here also get depressed.

    Social media execs dont let their kids on it for good reason. The correlation between this sh*t being embedded in kids lives and the collective mental breakdown of a generation of kids is near perfect. I think its just so easy to detach yourself from reality and just sit and ruminate. I guess the pandemic exacerbates that, but its a problem that predates it too.

  2. 57 minutes ago, Neil said:

    the govt admit that most pip claimants are for mh problems, I've never met someone who genuinely cant work cos its too stressful (pull yourself together lad, no income is more stressful) but I've met plenty too disabled to work.


    https://www.mind.org.uk/news-campaigns/news/benefits-assessments-making-people-with-mental-health-problems-more-unwell-mind-research-reveals/

     

    Quite difficult to find stats on it but found a source in the above article - seems like its quite a lot less than most.

    I just checked, for stress you get 600 quid a month… of course you’ll get the odd chancer, but it seems unlikely to me that a majority of claimants will be putting it on for the princely sum of 600 quid a month.

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  3. 14 minutes ago, Neil said:

    Greens in Govt hasn't lead to lots of good green policies. And the coalitions have made Scots feel badly govered.perhaps thats just Scots governing scots.


    Why do you hate scottish people so much? Seems personal. Have you been spurned by a lover who had it away with a big scotts porridge oats type fella?

  4. 51 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

    I find it crazy how people talk about how dangerous coalitions are, when in fact the Tory and Labour parties are in themselves coalitions of a huge range of views, so they can govern in FPTP.


    Exactly. Cameron had the backing of less than half of tory MPs for the gay marriage bill. 

    The current tory minister for women’s health is vocally anti abortion.

    Lee Anderson, until recently the tory vice chair, is an advocate for reinstituting the death penalty and called for migrants to ’f**k off back to France’.

  5. 12 minutes ago, Neil said:

    not diluted, you'd have ukip wagging the tory dog (more than it does now).


    This is the weirdest argument out there. Across Europe, right wing populist parties have governed in coalition with other right wing parties, and yet it is the UK, with its allegedly extremist proof system which has left the eu, puts refugees on planes to rwanda, turns a blind eye to Russian money funding one of the major parties, and from the ppe scandal to the teesside freeport deal- allows corruption and cronyism to run rife at every level of government.

    Its a bizarre argument and speaks of the self obsession of brits. Absolutely clueless as to what actually happens outside of that sh*tty little bubble.

  6. 4 minutes ago, Neil said:

    No one cares about politics but pr will make them care. Don't care enough to change the voting system. So how will they care enough to change the system.


    They would if they could.

    PR leads to higher voter turnout, higher engagement, more activism, larger party membership so a bigger pool of candidates to choose from (better representatives).

    Its a no brainer. As in you have to have no brain to think that FPTP is better.

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  7. 10 minutes ago, Neil said:

    Nobome agrees fully with another individual and won't agree bfully with a party either. So the most attractive for anyone's vote is the party thats the least disagreeablem your wanting a cult not a political programme


    Right… but this is true of pretty much every decision anybody ever makes. Shall we also only have two cereal brands to choose from? Two football teams to support?

  8. 52 minutes ago, Neil said:

    that's how people vote under any system.


    Nope. PR almost always leads to higher turnout and greater engagement with and trust in the system.

    Exceptions shown in attached graph are australia (non pr but compulsory voting) and switzerland (pr but very decentralised and lots of referenda so not as important to vote in the nationals).

     

    58 minutes ago, Neil said:

    so most important to you is to deny democracy, pr might have stopped the referendum happening, but the result of a ref would be the same.


    Above all else, the brexit vote was an opportunity for voters to express their dissatisfaction at a system that makes them feel as if they have no control. It was mainly a protest vote.

    PR and the referendum outcome would have been different.

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  9. 14 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

    I think we might get some of PR at the end of Labours 2nd term if they get a majority at the next election. It would bring some of the green voters on side and then protect against a Tory majority. 


    This wont happen. Starmer is a right wing authoritarian, he has no interest in advancing democracy or progressive politics.

  10. 29 minutes ago, Neil said:

    all will work for their party and try to achieve their manifesto promises, and not have them watered down by other parties.its a bad solution cos no one gets what they voted for, and the arsehole parties will continue to be those arseholes9as happened with 2010 coalition)


    Nobody gets what they vote for now.

    The extreme apathy is largely caused by fptp.

    Voters are expected to make all the compromise and vote for either one of the major parties that they hate least.

    So you end up with low turnout where a unified fringe can end up dominating the agenda. As happens now.

    Brexit would not have happened under PR.

  11. 2 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:

    I mean personally, I consider the fact that Neil Coyle has been welcomed back into the party, to be Starmer endorsing all of the sinophobic abuse and assault that I and others have suffered post-covid. I think it's a toxic pile of crap and that he's more interested in factionalism over protecting minorities.

    I had the same criticism of Corbyn and his defense of Chris Williamson just to be clear.

     

    Bit different. Williamson was first suspended for the attached. Coyle for the other attached.

    Then NEC made the decision to readmit williamson and then he was subsequently kicked out again after a repeat offence.

    Coyle already had sexual harrassment on his rap sheet and he’s still in the fold.

     

    FWIW i’m not saying Williamson is not an antisemite (judging from what I’ve encountered of his post parliamentary career), just that Coyle’s offense being overtly racist is clearly the more serious transgression.

     

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  12. 5 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

    When everyone accuses you of bias then you are doing a grand job of impartiallity.


    The problem is that when the right say the BBC is bias they mean Gary lineker on twitter, the presenter of a football programme, and maybe one or two sh*t satirical shows on bbcr4 that nobody listens to.
     

    When the left say the bbc is bias they mean everyone who has anything to do with any of the bbc’s news/politics output- the news (what they choose to cover both online and on the tv), question time, newsnight, the today show, panorama. At best you get some token Labour voice from the right of the party also slagging off whatever left wing thing they want to attack this week.

    So its not really the same is it.

  13. 37 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

    saved by high numbers of immigrants.


    You could also explain the negative growth in gdp per capita through the lens of high migration- ie new migrants generally generating less than than the previous average income, thus increasing the denominator by a greater magnitude than the numerator in the gdp/head sum.

    Depends how you want to spin it.

  14. 4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

    Yes there’ll be issues locally which will be of concern to more people in that area but at a general election when people think more about the country the conflict won’t be much of a factor for many. 


    The problem isnt Gaza, or the 28bil green sh*t. The problem is that rather than rely on policy, Starmer has tried to make this a presidential election that hinges on one thing - trust- the idea of Labour as safe pair of hands, strong, united, sensible, if a bit dull, and the tories by contrast as a skipfire.

    The problem is that Labour arent this trustworthy sensible outfit at all, and recent events have shown that behind the thin facade, the leadership are instead every inch as capricious, neurotic, incompetent, and weak as the tories.

    I still think Labour will form the next govt, but there is no question that things like this damage them. Hopefully it all makes a hung parliament more likely anyway. 

  15. 44 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

    Just talking to someone from work, an asian woman from Rochdale who now lives in Cheshire...I asked what she thought about all this Rochdale news stuff, she didn't know what I was talking about, didn't know there was going to be a by-election there, nothing.

    So there you go.


    Cool. So 0% turnout expected then.

  16. 39 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

    he has totally undermined Starmer's apparent push to drive out antisemitism


    Hmmm

    Antisemites in Corbyn’s Labour - Corbyn’s fault

    Antisemites in Starmer’s Labour - The antisemite’s fault

     

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  17. 2 hours ago, Ozanne said:

    Equal pay for BAME workers

     


    Ah yes, they pulled this one out of their collective arse just after the decision to conduct internal polling to determine how much damage they’ve done to their BAME vote with their shitness on palestine. Now call me a cynic but..

  18. Apparently being a left wing europhile means supporting the only surviving policy of note from that brief free market extremist trussonomics era - the repealing of the EU’s 200% of salary bankers bonus cap.

    This will raise a miniscule amount of money in additional tax directly but its also not clear that there would be any net gain. The second and third order effects are hard to know.

    First off the total tax paid depends on how bonuses are structured and how much the recipients are able to avoid. Other effects to be considered such as whether it attracts better financial services professionals who make a material difference to the success of our financial services industry. My feeling is that no- basically all of the innovation in the sector comes from startups, not from the 60 year old overpaid baldie executives of large financial institutions.

    Then on the other side what is the opportunity cost of that cash going to a few individuals - I guess that if they didnt pay out such large bonuses then they’d invest it back into the business or pay out higher dividends- this could have wider beneficial effects.

    Then i think people miss the point of the EU cap on bankers bonus- it was never about fairness, since its a cap on bonus related to salary (200%). It just means that the top dogs get paid more salary, and less bonus. Which is about incentivising them to take more holistic decisions instead of satisfying some short sighted narrow criteria at the expense of all else because that is what is perceived to have been the causal factor in the 2008 crisis.

    But actually, who cares, luckily for us that Ozanne has studied it extensively and has decided that paying bankers more in bonus will help us pay for all the great progressive Labour party policies, like free gruel for veterans or something 

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