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17 hours ago, Ozanne said:
He's a mental health Dr in the NHS so has seen first hand what the Tories have done to it and can't be apart of that any longer.
How naive can you be? Maybe reasonable if it didnt come at a time when his party is 20 points before a looming GE.
He’s a careerist who doesnt want to lose his seat. Also a ned of a private health co.
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4 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:
I am sure they will....................... but then deny anything and everything they were wrong about like always.
Always good though to see the Chuckle Brothers working together.
Labour being taken over by Thatcherites is good because Ian Dunt said so. Look how smart we are.
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10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
he's got a big job on his hands though, especially when they rule out any tax rises and the tory are busy cutting them and setting traps everywhere.
Not true though is it. Its a convenient excuse. The tories are not unpopular because they have too high taxes, they are also not less unpopular since they started to cut tax.Starmer’s labour is ruled by a Thatcherite clique, they are dispersing the myth that all of their Thatcherite nonsense is a product of politics rather than will through unofficial channels through friendly journo/commentator pieces. Done in a way to make idiots think they’re big brains who get politics whilst everyone else complaining about ’red tories’ are the dafties. But with public sentiment regarding the tories as it is, there is simply no reason to be dishonest about their intentions. Because they arent. This is them. Red tories.
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9 hours ago, steviewevie said:
well Guardian is I guess a centre left paper, but has a columnists with a range of opinions from left to right, but obviously most are kind of lefty. The paper has been mostly supportive of Labour, but some times also critical of it's policies and whoever is leader, from Blair to Corbyn to Starmer. I don't remember any particular jounalist or opinion writer who was critical of Corbyn who gets anywhere near the amount of sh*t Owen Jones does..whether for him being critical of Starmer or his pro trans takes etc...but at same time I think Jones kind of is up for it, he's always all over social media, and seems to love an argument and can get in a right strop. I sometimes find him annoying it has to be said, but at same time he is passionate and makes a lot of valid points....as do many of the same people who were critical of Corbyn.
The guardian is a liberal paper. Its opinion pieces are usually indiscernible from the main liberal paper over here Dagens Nyheter. It gives a little space to leftists such as Jones and Monbiot but a cynic could say that this is sort of balance-washing in the same way the beeb will throw a leftist on question time once every blue moon. Jones is hated because he uses the little space he gets as a soapbox to campaign and usually to amplify issues that both the right and the liberals don’t like. Also because he himself can be quite belligerant in his media appearances, presumably knowing as he does that in the clickbait landscape that this is the best way to amplify those views. It’s probably his celebrity thanks to that and his bestsellers that means the guardian keeps him on despite his polemicism as regards their usual editorial position. In the end, loathe him or love him, I guess people care enough about what he writes to buy the paper. The same can’t be said for the other dullards they have on columns.
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7 hours ago, steviewevie said:
Look forward to you endlessly criticising labour and then getting upset when someone disagrees.
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9 hours ago, lazyred said:
I understand perfectly how coalitions work. I don't condemn parties for adjusting policy to win power. You don't seem to like this happening before an election but are ok if it happens after.
But New Labour were more right wing in power than they were in the election campaign so… -
The more you post in this thread, the dumber you are.
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5 hours ago, steviewevie said:
you do realise how politics works, right?
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3 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:
Oh look
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4 hours ago, lazyred said:
They have to be closer to the tories (but I still think there are big differences) to win. The left are all or nothing but public attitudes take time to change. If a centrist labour party can change the electoral pattern to win 3 out of every 4 elections then over time we will become a more left wing society.
Why did public attitudes change? In the post war era people were happy to invest in public infrastructure and pay more taxes. Can it be that the intellectual capitulation of the nominally left wing party to the neoliberal thatcher/reaganite consensus of the 80s has directly contributed to the erosion of the credibility of left wing economics? If so, is the route back to double down and undermine your own economic philosophy? Seems farfetched. -
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25 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:
As someone who was born in 1977 and lived through Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron and the whole cavalcade of c**ts that followed him it’s very easy to be enthusiastic about Starmer. I was 11 when Thatcher left. I was 20 when Blair got in. I was 33 when Cameron got in. I know the f**king difference.
Blair came to power at a time when the global economy was going gang busters and ramped up the public spending and everyone had a nice few years. Unfortunately it was all smoke and mirrors, funding profligate current account spending and ineffective reforms by flogging off assets and PFI and now you have little to show for it.Had they won in 2010, alastair darling was committed to austerity promised greater and deeper ’swingeing cuts’ than the tories.
Philosophically there is a fag paper’s difference between Blair and Cameron.
And now their heirs Starmer and Reeves reaffirm this time and again in both words and deeds but for some reason people have decided that they shall disbelieve what Starmer and Reeves say and do and instead hold on to some odd fiction that they are secret radicals. Presumably because they are at least nominally still ’Labour’ and the association of that brand with doing good things has still not completely died.. yet.
I predict another decade of austerity, underfunded public services, paternalistic authoritarianism and overseas interventionism. But dont say I didnt warn you!
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I know folks are desperate for something other than tory rule but how do you manage to just ignore everything Starmer’s Labour say and do and make up your own version of who they are?
In a decade or so, the only thing that will remain of another lacklustre New Labour govt will be another insufferable odd couple podcast with Starmer and David Cameron chuckling their way through wacky political anecdotes and into the hearts of centrist dads everywhere, their despicable records long since forgotten.
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https://x.com/bbcpolitics/status/1746460963534934358?s=46
God Starmer looks absolutely tiny compared to Cameron here
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43 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
disgraceful that Bristol even has a mayor tbh.
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How we feeling about FPTP now, Starmerroids?
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5 hours ago, steviewevie said:
ok, so...when? There aren't that many times when Labour have been in power for a start.
Because at moment seems like Hunt wants to actually inflict pain on the country and labour.
???am i missing something?
Hunt getting rid of non dom tax status but giving the cash away in tax cuts is not really inflicting pain on the country. Its still net positive from the status quo right?
Its upto Reeves and Starmer if they decide to maintain those tax cuts rather than spend on the public sector. Stop making excuses for Labour spinelessness. A tremendously unpopular govt, a public sector in dire need of investment and still they are apparently happy to concede the intellectual argument before a shot has been fired - ’tax cuts good, nice stuff bad’ - all hail the iron chancellor!
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44 minutes ago, Ozanne said:
The country was in a much better state than it is now after the last Labour government and that’s even taking into account the Crash. It’s the Tories that ruin this country again and again.
Shades of shite.
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Imagine playing with semantics when it comes to a demand for a ceasefire. We are lost
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This beautiful little boy looks like my beautiful little boy. I pray that heaven has a place for him and his feathery pal. RIP Osama.
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Absolutely pathetic. Be as sh*tty as possible, do everything to provoke a reaction and then cry Jo Cox / David Amiss. Disgusting crybullies.
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Feel sorry for Hoyle. Imagine being bullied into martyrdom for the sake of lardy lawyer Sir Keff Farter. Bad times all round
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Driscoll odds on to win then. Probably near enough to 100% of his vote will turn out vs maybe 60-70% of the polled labour voters at best.
Also a good sign for Corbyn and other ousted Labour MPs. Seems to be quite straight forward to galvanise the widespread antipathy and apathy towards Starmer’s Labour and win as an independent.