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Doesn't look like we are getting an announcement tomorrow then with the competition closing. Or J would have surely caught wind of it.
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That is really poor standon, Bloc Party in the early slot would be pretty cool though at Viccy.
I'd love Human League but with them at IOW can't see it.
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39 minutes ago, sisco said:
This being said, I’m prettt sure one is Little Simz who I imagine will be a main stage sub
I'll be honest, I've never heard of little simz outside of this forum. 😂
I just had a listen and nope don't recognise her stuff.
Victorious has never had that kind of genre in a big slot, I think if she is booked, will be taking the Anne Marie Castle Headline slot, if she is that big, I mean Becky Hill was third down on Castle this year, is Little Simz bigger than Becky Hill?
Becky Hill performed at the Woman's Euro finals.
EDIT I know it's not the be all and end all but Little Simz is getting 5m you tube views and Becky Hill is getting near 30m and Anne Marie is in the hundreds of millions, so maybe Little Simz is getting a smaller slot than is being mentioned here. If she's even booked.
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15 minutes ago, retrokev said:
for me personally capaldi and 1975 would be a big disappointment and geared to a younger crowd
Well, we won't know anyway, cus they only announce 1 headliner in first announcement.
Maybe a Castle headliner too. Victorious always has a nice mix and I don't think they'll move from that balanced formula
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20 minutes ago, sisco said:
Kasabian are surely a headliner at those type of events. Noel is like them… mid tier now
Yeah I just meant as a favour as they're close friends
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5 minutes ago, gfa said:
Prodigy? all very similar acts i agree but a strong trio regardless
Prodigy can't headline due to their only outdoor headline UK dates already announced.
I think will be Calpaldi, 1975 and one other the way theyre hyping it to the press as their biggest ever and seems they're expanding again.
I saw that they haven't put parking on sale yet either, I assume maybe because they might expand into that area?
From the conversations seems they're still in planning stages of expanding the site and locals are being hesitant.
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1 hour ago, sisco said:
Scrap that… he does quite a few back to back shows. Still very much in the picture
When Weller headlined in 2018, he did a one off Arena date in Birmingham on the Friday night then headlined Victorious on the Saturday night.
Its hard to say tbh. But he certainly could still headline, it's certainly far enough away to not conflict with Victorious potential goers. I'm surprised Kasabian aren't subbing him though. We certainly won't be getting Primal Scream again though who's subbing him in Manchester.
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I completely forgot this was announcing today, Interpol is a great get for them.
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24 minutes ago, sisco said:
Although just had a look at all of the socials and none of the likes of Tramlines, Y Not, Truck are saying anything barring the Christmas tickets. They always tease a lineup is coming.
Victorious is the one that doesn’t tbf… just suddenly released
YNot will struggle next year I imagine.
I saw an interview with one of the lads who runs Victorious and he said that coming out of the pandemic they asked another festival to share an act and they refused.
I think this mentality is continuing and YNot is stuck out there without being part of a big booking power behind it.
They said they learned a lesson from this and won't forget it. I also think will lead them to be more aggressive with their booking.
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1 minute ago, sisco said:
Standon Calling announcing Thursday morning, shared a couple of their headliners with Victorious last time
Think a lot will announce this week/next week, last pay day before Xmas, I know I keep saying it
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9 hours ago, WhatADin said:
We saw a local promoter who gets a bit involved with the festival at another event on Saturday. Someone I know asked him directly if they know who was headlining and he basically said, he only finds out the day before.
This must be Nick right?
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6 hours ago, shivroy said:
Ah interesting, what other fests does superstruct run then?
I also wonder if her booking this year was purely because they had to book her again after the 2019 cancellation? So her contract might be different than usual for a headliner.
They own
Victorious, Boardmasters, Tramlines, Truck, South West 4, Kendell Calling, Bluedot in UK
Outside the UK they own
Wacken, Sziget, Sonar, Hideout, Flow, Oya, Elrow, Parookaville, Mysteryland, Thunderdome, Awakenings, Milkshake, Defcon1, DGTL, STRAF_WERK, Pleinvrees, Amsterdam Open Air, The Gardens of Babylon
They probably own a ton more too, they've been buying up festivals non stop past few years
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1 hour ago, gfa said:
Surely boardmasters can afford calvin if they wish? DJs are in general a lot cheaper to book than bands - surely hes no more than like Kings of Leon who've done reading loads of times
I believe he was charging £2million per show
EDIT - But like I've said before it's all relative, size of the event, if he has other options, if he's wanting to do any dates. It's not like things are set in stone. But I believe that was his fee for major festival headline slot before.
As Boardmasters is, what, 50k? I would imagine his rate wouldn't be as high.
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I just noticed Victorious saying buy your tickets by Friday 2nd December for chance to win backstage passes, premium upgrade, £100 Lidl vouchers etc.
I wonder if it's this Friday the first announcement might get made instead then.
Pay day for a lot of people, line up just announced, buy by today to get entered into competition?
Maybe...
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10 hours ago, sisco said:
I suppose from that list TDCC, Kasabian, Noel and Courteeners could play. All the rest played too recently.
Looking at TRSMT The 1975 at a big push (although think they’re too big) and Heaton & Abbott as a Castle Header (and obvs Kasabian)
From Boardmasters I reckon Victorious get Little Simz
Then it’s waiting for the others to announce for more clues
Courteeners are subbing at IOW so they're out.
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16 minutes ago, sisco said:
I reckon we’ll still get an announcement but remember the info on the tramlines forum That there’s struggles to tie people down this year. That’s obvs the reason for the delays in Truck, Y Not etc…. Announcing
Truck announces the bulk of their line up, all their headliners. Victorious never does, what I mentioned 20 acts, 1 headliner on common and castle and 1 special guest and lower acts totally do-able.
Still think Superstruct will announce something for all their fests before Xmas to try and sell as presents, they would be daft not to
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9 hours ago, Jack01825 said:
Just wanting a announcement haha was out this time last year !
It was Monday 29th November last year bud, so nah it wasn't. There were some 'leeks' going around though.
But yeah based on this might be next Monday the 28th November? It is usually the week before Victorious announce.
I expect a few fests might announce next week. Payday for Xmas ain't it.
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9 hours ago, WhatADin said:
I cannot for the life of me work out who we are going to have now.... with the financial side of everything I doubt we'll get any US acts (although I really wish we would). If Superstruct are booking LG, would Noel be like Nahhhhh? Kasabian still feels right. I think based on chatter from Glastonbury etc I I think the 1975 are a no/too big.
We don't really tend to share headliners with Boardmasters either, so that rules LG and Flo out (and I believe that LG is exclusive to Boardmasters as well?)
When do Truck etc tend to announce. I reckon we're only a couple of weeks from a first announcement though.
Announcement should be 2 weeks tomorrow yeah based on last year.
Last year we got Friday Headliner Stereophonics
Friday third down James
Saturday sub The Wombats
Saturday third down Declan McKenna
Saturday Special guest Sugababes
Nothing of the big acts for Castle on Saturday and nothing for Common on Sunday
Sunday Castle, sub Nothing But Thieves, third Becky Hill, 4th Sophie Ellis Bexter.
Then a bunch of lower down acts.
I think this year we will get more, I reckon 1 Common headliner and 1 castle headliner and 1 special guest.
Then a sub from Common, sub from Castle and a few higher acts.
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2 minutes ago, retrokev said:
so with boardmasters announcing ,do we think any of for victorious?
Was just gunna say, I'd imagine Liam and Flo are out of the running for Victorious, don't think we have ever shared a headliner with Boardmasters, we sometimes share undercard, can't see any of that announced at Viccy tho and Example played this year.
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3 hours ago, atomised said:
Mcfly for an afternoon special guest slot, they're at camper calling that weekend
Good shout that, they love a pop act in the afternoon, I remember V booked McFly as second act on main stage around 2010? They were really decent tbh
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5 hours ago, Bubblepopelectric said:
What about David Guetta? Fri night Castle headliner?
He charges far too much to be a Castle headliner.
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4 hours ago, gfa said:
Theres no way Noel Gallagher is charging more than the Strokes. Noel Gallagher is already over in Europe so don't think this argument really stacks up too well - if they went by that logic they'd have done more than just Lytham festival this summer
Bands DO go by this logic, the tour manager works with finances and puts together a tour throughout Europe so that it's financially viable. It's all about how long they're staying over for. Lytham was earlier in the summer it was a VERY small European window of one week which was after US dates and then before Australian and then more US dates. They did do more than Lytham, they did 4 shows in Europe in that one week. The Lytham booking happened because they were doing TRNSMT.
Now they're coming over next year for late summer, they're going to want to do as many European dates in that window they're over here next time. So yes in order to do shows they may lower their fee, because they will make it up on selling merch at a big event like Victorious. I'm not saying at all they're booked but things like this come into the planning all the time.
Noel is already here yes, he's also I believe the most expensive headliner Victorious have ever had. Certainly at that point the fee they paid, I don't believe it's been surpassed. He's far more known as an artist and instantly recognisable. Tell me the last hit single the Strokes had? Are they getting the same coverage Noel would get. You may like the Strokes, hey I like the Strokes, but don't get clouded that it's 2004/2005 still. It's not. They can't command fees they used to, so yes. Noel is absolutely more expensive to book than The Strokes. Because it's all about circumstance, Victorious aren't going to The Strokes and saying we will fly you over from the US and cover all those costs etc. Their tour manager is hitting up agencies and going we are going to be in Europe at this point what's available out there. Meanwhile, Noel is here his agent might look to get him booked or Victorious might approach him but he will vary his fee on the size of the event.
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29 minutes ago, retrokev said:
wow thats not bad.would love to see both arcade fire and the strokes again. both are great to me but i know a lot that dislike.
I could see Victorious booking The Strokes, because they do fit the demographic, are nowhere near as big as they used to be, probably within their budget.
Arcade Fire I don't feel are as mainstream well known, especially to a lot of the punters that turn up at Victorious. Plus they have the negative allegations against them which certain people who do know them would talk about on socials and then people on socials who had a listen to Neon Bible and go this isn't fucking Anne Marie and all that shite from last year would then kick up a fuss about. Plus I also think they would be a more expensive booking, so I just think Arcade Fire are a complete non starter from Victorious' point of view.
I'd much rather Victorious pulled The Strokes out of the bag instead of bringing Noel Gallagher back. They would possibly be cheaper as well, cus if they're over in Europe they try to get as many bookings as possible to make the trip over more financially worthwhile, meanwhile Noel is already here saying gimme £1m.
It's probably between Victorious and APE who gets The Strokes, they may want to play to a more commercial crowd though in a view to gaining new fans, more people to buy tracks and tour tickets, you would imagine APE is going to be a crowd already into the Strokes and I guess that will be a conversation between the band and their tour manager.
That being said. As I've repeatedly said here before, Victorious just don't book headliners from outside the UK, there's been one, Flaming Lips and that was back in 2015. But sooner or later that policy will have to change as the fest is getting bigger and will run into the trouble V had with repeat bookings.
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Are you guys discounting The Strokes due to it being too soon since they last played?
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