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Also are there reliable 24 hour lockups at the festival? I want to take a digital camera but I dont want to have it on me all the time. And obviously dont wanna leave it in my tent..
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I will be their.
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Camber Sands was one hell of a weekend. Im looking forward to this overnighter....
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I am pretty excited about this.
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Had a brilliant time and was good to see Goblinz i noticed him easy enough and brang another mate over to say Hi
Bring on next year!
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Glade is not the kind of festival to have a single best moment, but the general "we will party on no matter what happens" vibe of 07 was very special. Id been to Glasto a few weeks earlier and come close to giving up on festivals due to the lack of enthusiasism from the crowd, Glade dealt with harsher conditions vastly better..... reignited the fire in me so too speak.
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Has something happened at bearded festival? All kinds of rumours running round.....
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The officer involved has now been identified and suspended.
But here is the question in both the Tomlinson video and this one, other police officers watch on without batting an eyelid. It is almost expected and certainly accepted.
The problem is this raises the anger of a volatile crowd. It is the opposite of good policing. But for the death of Mr Tomlinson most people would not see this side to the way the police act with less well connected demonstrations. They dare not do this to big unions but they get away with it with the smaller movements and football fans.
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For those following this, this is a very good example of how the 'kettle' creates flashpoints. The important bit is 3:20 minutes in.
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Other than the entrance this seems to be just another variant of people staying in hotels and going to the festival.
But the private enterance really seems off to me.
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Link to Craig Murrys blog.
Eddited to add.
Hers was not the only e-mail. Steven McManus, who says he is a barrister and a former special constable, was in Threadneedle Street on Wednesday. “At around 6pm I was outside the Royal Exchange chatting with some officers. I was between the officers and the protesers. The atmosphere was calm and non-confrontational. I shared a few jokes with one officer and was just generally chatting.“A short while later the line began to move forward. The officers began to shout that we should all move back. I turned towards the crowd and began to move off in that direction. As I was walking away I was struck from behind by a baton and pushed forward towards the steps of Bank Underground.
“I was more than a little shocked at having been hit. The officer who had struck me was one I had been chatting to moments earlier, who knew about my City Police connection, and to whom I had my back turned. I remonstrated with the officer as to why he had hit me – his reply being: “F*** off, move back”. He said he could not help but be reminded of the manner of the attack on Tomlinson.
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Slightly OT but here is another video of the police in action
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Channel 4 news with new footage.
Ugly
Very ugly
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Peter Smyth, chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, said today that anyone on the streets during a protest could expect trouble. He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "On a day like that, where there are some protesters who are quite clearly hell-bent on causing as much trouble as they can, there is inevitably going to be some physical confrontation. On that day, it was mercifully... a lot smaller than expected."
Asked whether he thought the assault on Mr Tomlinson was unprovoked, he said: "Sometimes it isn’t clear, as a police officer, who is a protester and who is not.
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What if the officer wasn't wearing their shoulder flashes? It's basic in a conflict situation with Police officers, in case you need to make a claim against unfair treatment.
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I agree strudders. Assuming that there aren't any other reasons why he had a heart attack, anyhow. Innocent until proven guilty, hey.
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The man may have already been experiancing a heart attack when the incident took place, this is one possible explanation for the low energy levels and lack of awareness he is showing in the video. A heart attack is not a cardiac arrest. You can experiance one for a prolonged time before the actual arrest.
Secondly what the police officer did was common assault, it was comitted in a highly inflamitory situation that the police are supposed to be calming not inflaming. It was stunningly unprofessional but from what I witnessed their that day, all too common.
Finaly their is both actus reus and mens rea, the officer clearly intended the action of the push and exectuted it. If that is deemed to have been a contributory factor in the subsiquent death then the officer should face charges. That other factors were involved does not excuse the officer.
It has been known for people to recieve murder convictions from pushes and single punches with little force in them as their was malice aforethought against the individual and the it contributed to the chain of events that led to a death.
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But with less midges.
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So who is up for a visit to the glens Dumfries and Galloway?
Roni Size and The Orb are playing, could be a bit more ecclectic than usual.
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The IPCC now investigating the Tomlinson death.
The police had 'contact' with him.
"However, other witnesses who saw him in the Royal Exchange area have since told us that Mr Tomlinson did have contact with police officers."This would have been a few minutes before he collapsed. It is important that we are able to establish as far as possible whether that contact had anything to do with his death."
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I think they are available till next monday.
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Hmmm interesting. Suprised Snares is back after 07 though.
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The police prevented members of parliment from freely moving around the protests on Wednesday.
What power, right or duty do they think they posses to prevent such important members of our society from acting as legal observers to ensure that our right to express an opinion is being upheld without undue harassment or fear of violence.
The police and the home secetary have gotten way way too big for their boots if this is what they think they can do.
The public servants seem to think they have become master of the household.
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Less than a month to go..... buggeration I am excited.