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8 hours ago, lazyred said:

 

An important part  of the Starmer plan was to demonstrate Labour's change by purging the Corbynites and reassuring voters Labour are safe on borders and defence. Angela Rayner has interfered in this twice in the last few days. I also don't believe Starmer has forgiven how she humiliated him a few years ago when he tried to demote her. He'll have the power to sideline her if he gets a massive majority.

 

she's easy to sideline cos she hasn't seemed to be owning any issue and promising to fix it.

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4 minutes ago, stuie said:

all pension holders being tax avoiders

its an indisputable fact.

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16 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

So again, every person with a workplace pension? So presumably all of your family and like 90 % of people?

not all of my family, some people are more creative and self-supporting from their income than you imagine.

every person with a workplace pension has chosen to take up the opportunity to avoid taxon part of their income, not everyone thinks the tax avoiders are the smart people, that's reserved for the very-dims.

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8 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

As ever with Neil, the weird things he gets really passionate about are always thinly veiled jealousy 

I'm passionate about slagging off tax avoidance and the effect it has on society. The pension rules are f**king public services.

 

Ar least I'm not passionate about thinking the tax avoiders are smart.

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36 minutes ago, stuie said:

You sound a little bitter about not having built up a pension, getting by on handouts while waiting for your inheritance, as you said. 

Not bitter, I have plenty to get by on including the memories of enjoying my earnings when fit enough to do so. 

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3 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

You don’t opt in to a pension you have to opt out and you’d be a fool for doing so.

 

Also this has to be your daftest viewpoint yet and that’s saying something!

It's not daft to point out tax avoidance or the twats who think the tax avoiders are the smart people 

[What have you done to get ready for Glastonbury 24 ?]

39 minutes ago, A Particular Grey Chihuahu said:

decent Karrimor

sounds like a contradiction. 😛 

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1 hour ago, fraybentos1 said:

And this includes everyone with a pension- so 99% of the workforce ?

yes, the biggest grouping of tax avoiders. each and everyone of them has opted into their tax avoidance.i n the hope, other peoples taxes and their own tax avoidance will make them rich.

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1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said:

If you don’t have a pension then you can’t be that smart 🙂 

I'm just not te sort of greedy breadhead who is unable to recognise their own tax avoidance.

 

 

 

So you think the tax avoiders are the smart people; I think they're the assholes.

 

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1 hour ago, fraybentos1 said:

because he has a pension? usual mad take from you 

he said: there is one group who avoid more tax than the rest put together

 

he wasn't smart enough to recognise himself as a part of that group; or he's being prejudiced about another group.

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54 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

do you have a pension Neil?

nope. but if i did i'd be smart enough to recognise it as tax avoidance.

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2 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Are Labour coming after us?

i hope so they need to go after the idle rich.

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7 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

s there is one group who avoid more tax than the rest put together

pension savers is that group and green party doners.

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5 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

I hope the mods act on it as their opening comment says this sort of thing is not acceptable.

you're quite happy to make your own unacceptable comments, all the time!(its what you do) i call you out for them - you tax avoiding tory, who squeals like a tory at the prospect of being properly taxed

[EE masts on site this year?]

i've always used orange/ee at Glastonbury and always had a great signal at all hours, the council expects phone companies to install temporary masts so that people have a working phone service if they need it for emergencies.

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1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Of course they have - as they stride to come across as ever more Torylike they will keep doing it.

ever-more tory-like: squealing at the prospect of being properly taxed, like you just have.

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1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Our pension pots are not high earner ones

its your own tax avoidance scheme just like a rich tory.

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2 hours ago, lost said:

 

I think I said a few pages back I think they will target pensions (at least higher rate relief) to make it more difficult to retire early. There have also been suggestions they are going to stop over 55's from tapping their pension pots for day to day expenses.

make it more difficult for people to retire early would be a good ideas, the problems of early retirement was a predictable problem.

 

1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Our pension pots are ours and not tapping for day to day cos we both now get monthly pensions that they cannot take away - unless they change the law and piss off several million people who tend to vote.

see the rich squeal at the prospect of being fairly taxed.

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2 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

As a health professional some of the most inspirational people I have met have been carers. I agree only a certain type of person can do the job well. Unfortunately carers also have bills to pay and move out of care out of necessity.

if anyone else was denigrating a job role like uninteresting has just done - uuninteresting would be right on them. he's the low standards arsehole.

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1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Just watched Channel4 news and they said reason that Diane Abbott had whip suspended was because she said white people don't experience racism. 

thats what she did, cos in dianes world only Dianne experiences racism.

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21 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Diane Abbott is running.

the labour campaign ( i thought you said ruining!) 😛

 

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swinney says make Scotland grate again: some news: it never stopped grating. 😛 

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4 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

and when the good old British people who have not yet wanted to do the jobs immigrants do hence we have immigrants doing them what then when the good old British people still don't want to do them?

You can't make someone like wiping the arses of old folk and looking after them and if you think you can ask yourself, would you like to be looked after by someone who simply did not want to look after you?

the plan is for a higher NMW for carers (much more than wiping arses) so that brits want the jobs, there's lots of good brits doing the job already.

 

 

and leaning on engineering companies to employ and train brits thru more apprenticeships

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5 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

I feel I have to actively campaign against the f**king Labour party for the safety of myself and others.

i get why you're saying that, but when the only other outcome will be tories, its not a great idea if you want something better than the tories.

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Just now, kaosmark2 said:

 

It's "the cost of everything and the value of nothing" politics. Reeves has, in the past, made the emotional, principled argument for economic policies. She's stopped that now, and I suspect this is from briefings by Starmer and his closest allies.

in the past reeves was working with a mythical future, where the outcome of her policies always worked as hoped, and where there was slack in the numbers to find money for investment.