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Fuzzy Afro

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  1. Just now, crazyfool1 said:

    double jabbed or not you still carry it and can pass it on to others ? surely its still about keeping the infections down even though the risk is lower ? ill keep the app on and if it pings me ill do as required .... im in the fortunate position that my employer pays me for the full isolation period though ... I do understand that others might not be as fortunate and  the govt compensation for isolating has never been adequate or encouraging for people to do as required . 

    You are highly unlikely to. Which is why contact tracing is being stopped for double jabbed people specifically. 

  2. 8 minutes ago, Havors said:

    Then is the problem not the idiot voters as opposed to what happened in the past? Cutting their nose off to spite their face? i.e. im going to help Boris the complete buffoon sell off our NHS because Corbyn was a fucking idealistic hippy commie who is no longer in the party? 

    You’ve lost the argument when you start to call the voters idiots.

     

    Besides, the Tories aren’t selling off the NHS. 

  3. The app is stupid anyway, I’d wager that the vast vast majority of people who get pinged are unnecessarily self-isolating and will not go on to test positive.

     

     

    The vast majority of people who catch coronavirus do so from someone they know. 

  4. Explicitly taking to social media to tell everyone you plan to continue mask wearing is absolutely virtue signalling btw (even if I’m not convinced the actual act of mask wearing is virtue signalling) 

  5. Silly mitigations like keeping masks compulsory will achieve nothing. Even under the current restrictions we are on track for a massive exit wave.

     

    Let me make this absolutely clear, it’s a straight choice between an exit wave or reimposing lockdown. That exit wave happens whether you stay as well are now, relax partially or relax fully. So it makes absolutely no sense to delay reopening or keep minor mitigations.

     

    The only two positions that make sense at all are to reimpose lockdown (or at least stage 2 restrictions) to get the R below 1 and suppress this wave, or reopen fully and go for herd immunity. 

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  6. 3 minutes ago, kalifire said:

    Has every adult been given a reasonable chance to get one? Genuine question.

    Yes. The online booking system has been online for all over-18’s for weeks and appointments are plentiful. 

  7. Random thought, but on current case trajectories basically anyone who hasn’t been vaccinated will have caught the Delta variant over the next month or two anyway. Current restrictions are doing very little to stop that and token measures like keeping masks on public transport would do even less.

     

    So basically the government might as well do something, either reimpose lockdown (which there is very little appetite for now) or relax the rules altogether. The current halfway house is actually a worst of both worlds approach. 

  8. At the end of the day there is going to be an exit wave whenever freedom day is announced. The virus has enough people to infect, between those who have chosen not to have the vaccine, those who can’t have it (children or those who are exempt for some medical reason) and the unlucky few who it doesn’t work on.

     

    The argument is that waiting until all adults have been offered a second vaccine pushes that exit wave into September and October when the NHS is likely to be busier due to other respiratory viruses having the upper hand. If you think of who is protected by leaving it until then, it’s mainly healthy under 40’s who are highly unlikely to need hospital treatment if they’re infected. 
     

    You basically have three choices:

     

    1) Reopen now and deliberately infect a shit load of healthy young people (on top of the inevitable exit wave). Accept the long covid repercussions as well as a few unlucky hospitalisations and deaths. 
     

    2) Reopen in September and have a smaller exit wave in terms of cases but the same if not higher in deaths, with serious pressure on the NHS.

     

    3) Wait until spring 2022.

     

    Option 2 is the one with the highest risk of overwhelming the NHS so that one is out and I don’t think the economy or society could handle another 9 months of lockdown so option 3 is a non-starter. That leaves option 1, where we take the exit wave on the chin now and reap the economic and personal freedom benefits. The big downside is that a lot of young people will end up with long covid, but that’s the least worst option IMO compared to potentially putting the NHS in danger in the autumn or another 9 months of lockdown. 

  9. 7 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

     

    Spain are rocketing along with the vaccinations!

    It’s good to see the major EU countries really ramping up their rollouts now. They had a woefully slow start and took some well deserved criticism for it but they’ve gotten their arses into gear now and they deserve a lot of credit for doing that. 

  10. Just now, HalfAnIdiot said:

    I belive they are just concerned that this may not be the best path out of this. It probably doesn't always read that way. Emotional times really. 

    One day we'll all be sat in a field at a certain farm and look back at these times thankful that's its over and we got through it. 

    Have a greenie 🙂

     

    I guess the we will tell our grandkids about the pandemic in the same way they told us about WW2. An absolutely bizarre period in our lives. 

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  11. Just now, HalfAnIdiot said:

    That doesn't answer my question really. 

    We all want out of this. Please don't be so mean to people. 

    I’m sorry for being mean.

     

    I don’t believe that we all want out of this though. There are posters who have clearly expressed a preference to keep restrictions. 

  12. 6 minutes ago, HalfAnIdiot said:

    Taking pleasure in the distress of others. Is that necessary? What do you get out of it? Sad really. 

    Plenty of people have taken pleasure out of everyone else’s distress during lockdown 

  13. 57 minutes ago, MrBarry465 said:

    Personally, still think it's fucking reckless when 50% of the population are not fully vaccinated. This proper opening could have been pushed back to August once we had everyone done - but hey ho I guess.

    Almost pre empting down votes from certain ividduals to this post.

    Not going to downvote you. Just going to enjoy your faux outrage and tears. We are getting our freedom back in two weeks and there is absolutely nothing you lockdown loving weirdos can do about it. Pleasing 🙂 

  14. 1 minute ago, DeanoL said:

    Is it? Has it been officially acknowledged anywhere that that's even what was happening? Genuine question, it just seems weird that we would have had official confirmation of any of that happening given we're still sort of in the position of wanting compliance at the moment.

     I know there have been leaks and stuff but I'm curious as to anything official on the whole "project fear" thing?

    It’s literally in the SAGE minutes from March 2020. 

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