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51 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
Not Rachel Clarke again. She does a lot of preaching about saving lives for a doctor who works in palliative care.
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Ultimately, if people are happy to list in NHS waiting lists for months on end then be my guest but I can guarantee you that if you can afford, joining a private medical insurer is one of the best products money can buy.
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21 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
France and Italy both have national health services mostly paid for by state, but not all of it....and nor is it here, prescriptions, dentists etc.
And I want us to have that here.
I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with the NHS as it is, I’m just saying too many people are using it.
In the UK, 11% of the population have private medical insurance. In Italy it’s almost half and in France it’s nearly two-thirds.
The UK spends about 50% more per head on state healthcare than the other to (€4,500 per person per year compared to €3,000 in those two countries) but the NHS is charged with treating significantly more people than either of those two healthcare systems.Take the UK’s €4,500 per head, but only using it for 89% of the population, suddenly it’s just over €5,000
Italy are spending €3,000 per head but only half the population use it. So €6,000 per head.
France are also spending €3,000 per head but only 1/3 of people use it. So €9,000 per head.
Suddenly it’s very easy to see why both these countries have better healthcare systems and better life expectancies than us. They have relatively well funded state healthcare but the middle classes tend to provide for themselves and remove the strain on the system, and suddenly it becomes a much better system for poorer people.
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Just now, mcshed said:
That's not evidence that they'd be more efficient if you transferred the bulk off NHS GPs workload onto them.
You might be right that the private sector currently has excess capacity so we'd be using it better if more people went private but that is a world away from you saying everyone other than the very low paid should pay £70 a month health insurance as that would be more efficient than paying an extra £70 a month tax and giving that to the NHS.
What you need to understand is that the benefit is in the competition in the sector. If you’re paying BUPA £70 a month and you’re not getting good value for it, you’ll simply leave and go to a competitor like vitality. Hike up tax and fund the NHS more and they have zero incentive to provide a good product.
France and Italy, two comparable European countries, absolutely shit on us for life expectancy and both of them have hybrid public/private healthcare systems. Too many people just hear “private sector” and immediately jump to the conclusion that we’re going to end up like the US charging every Tom, Dick and Harry £20k for an ambulance ride and some medium grade painkillers.
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15 minutes ago, steviewevie said:
Ah, the dangerous experiment c**ts are back
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23 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
From what prospective is it correct ?
I mean don't get me wrong - for me personally I would rather WFH (selfish personal reasons) - but it has consequences and it makes zero difference to the covid situation.
Nothing to do with covid, I’m talking about long term
There is very limited benefit to going in to an office to sit and work at a desk all day but a lot of benefits to having meetings face to face
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32 minutes ago, DeanoL said:
Our company are basically going down the line of "go into the office for meetings, stay home for desk work".
City centre businesses will be impacted for sure but people will still want to put money into the economy. It's just it'll be in different places. Some city centre cafes and gyms will close but more will open in residential areas. I'd expect most runs of little corner shops (y'know, where's there's 5-6 shop, a Nisa and a newsagents and maybe a hairdressers and a chippy) to have a cafe in them by this time next year. It's possible one of the biggies (Costa, Starbucks, Pret) will actively push into that area.
The demand isn't going away, it's just moving. It's economic disruption, not decline, and that's just how business and the free market works.
This is 100% the correct route to go down. Ive moved all my meetings to the 2 days that I’m in the office.
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5 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
Its not that simple to be honest...
We don't really have a dedicated NHS doctors and Private Doctors (well we do but not to the level to make what you posted entirely true). We just really have doctors (beyond the Junior level). A lot of doctors will see a mixture of NHS and private patients and move between the two. The guy you see at BUPA can be often the same guy you will see in the NHS - and sometimes you might even see the same guy in a NHS setting - just quicker - as the NHS allows something like 25% of its resources to be sold out to the private sector (not sure on the eact %). its a good earner for the NHS.
Ive had private for quite a while until very recently. It is really good - like a fast pass at a Theme Park 🙂. The ballache for me is I had to referred via the GP to get anything done.
You want to go through one of the private insurers that have their own GPs
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It would actually be better for everyone if more middle class people had private health insurance.
The customers themselves not only get treated more quickly, but they reduce NHS waiting times for others by not clogging up resources.
I’m not arguing for a removal or even a scaling back of the NHS I just wish more people would choose to go private for certain things.
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8 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:
not a surprise - every 5 months forever presumably
I have read that the boosters are unlikely to wane anywhere near as quickly as the 2-dose regime (someone I read about had antibody levels in the 20’s after 1 dose, 100ish after the second and then like 15,000 after the booster)
Fauci is saying Pfizer is effectively a 3 dose regime
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1 hour ago, mcshed said:
Evidence?
I could ring up BUPA today, get a private GP appointment on Monday and be referred to see a specialist by the end of the week. Would be waiting months for that level of care on the useless NHS.
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2 hours ago, mcshed said:
I'm not really sure what for profit private companies add to the equation, you're saying everyone should pay £70 a month for private care unless they can't afford it, why not simply ask everyone to pay that same £70 a month more in tax?
Private sector is more efficient
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32 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:
We're doing that - based on the story I mentioned earlier. Might make it temporary for the winter and spring, but for the next few months we'd prefer to have the option, even if its not needed.
I won't win many fans for saying this, but the NHS has become something it was never really intended to be, and the levels of service it aims to provide are completely unsustainable.
I do think it should be normalised for most working adults to have private medical insurance through BUPA, Vitality or one of the many other providers. Such organisations can provide round the clock GP appointments, fast referrals to see specialists, a choice of which specialist to see, and in many cases they offer practical health advice to reduce their care costs (e.g. Vitality will reward those who attend a gym with free cinema tickets and weekly coffees)
The NHS was never created so that every mum and dad in the country could take little Johnny to the doctor every time he sneezes and having near-total reliance on it is never going to work with the tax levels in the UK. You'd have to hike up tax massively to properly fund the system.
IMO the NHS should provide emergency hospital care, and then a basic service of other treatments for those who genuinely can't afford to pay like £70 a month for private medical insurance, or those who insurers won't touch due to previous health problems. I'm not arguing against the existence of the NHS by any means (US healthcare is horrific), but it's completely unsustainable to expect an all signing all dancing public healthcare system in a country of relatively low taxes.
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3 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
In other news - fire service will now also be remote only appointments
What an absolute disgrace.
Anyone who can afford it should join BUPA as soon as possible.
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1 minute ago, JoeyT said:
To be fair there’s nothing stopping these helmets from wearing a mask at the moment so why force it on the rest of us?!
These morons won’t stopped until we are all forced to stay in individual bedrooms in solitary confinement all day with the army delivering essential supplies to everyone.
And no doubt we’ll be forced to wear a mask and hazmat suit to avoid breathing out the virus through the window.
c**ts.
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It amazes me how many people enjoy the idea of the public being forced to treat their trip to tesco as if they are visiting the site of the Chernobyl disaster. Get face nappy mandates fired in the bin.
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12 minutes ago, JoeyT said:
For some reason the tweet thread was deleted but it was very similar to this one if you're interested. Effectively if we can get jabs in arms in a decent fashion the boosters will have a massively positive impact.
At the same time it looks as though we are seeing a ramp up in this which is good. Were there targets set in terms of getting all booster jabs to currently eligible age range or not?
Boosters for the whole population IMO to really deliver the knockout blow.
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33 minutes ago, DeanoL said:
While that didn't happen, what did happen was people who had heart attacks putting off or not going to A&E in the first place because of COVID. 50% fewer people went in with heart attack symptoms than normal during the first wave. https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases/worse-outcomes-observed-after-heart-attacks-during-pandemic-compared-to-previous
I don’t know what to say to someone who doesn’t bother getting their heart attack seen to out of dear of catching a pretty much bog standard respiratory virus.
Definition of a Darwin Award and a complete inability to assess risk.
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3 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:
If you turn up at A&E with a heart attack and you can't be seen - that is what a collapsed health care system is.
Having your in growing toe nail operation delayed is not a collapsed health care system.
Absolutely no one shouldn’t be seen because of a heart attack. They should prioritise all of that over covid for sure.
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If Rachel Clarke was that concerned with saving lives she would get out of palliative care hospices and go work on the front line, tbh.
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3 hours ago, JoeyT said:
If “people doing their bit” is simply wearing a mask or opening a window then make it a fucking rule if you’re that bothered. Jesus.
What’s the point in wearing a mask to Tesco if you’ve got 10k people at an indoor gig down the road etc.
The logic is ridiculous.
Surely the logic is that vulnerable people should be nowhere near a 10k capacity indoor gig?
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3 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:
People up in arms about this "mercifully low deaths" comment. I must've missed sensitivity training that day because its my thoughts too...
It’s just fake SAGE trying to make out that any deaths are a problem
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1 hour ago, crazyfool1 said:
Ok so you are right there might be a 0.000000000000000001% chance of me passing on covid that I don’t have … fair enough you are right 😂
This is my issue with people who think it’s wrong not to wear a mask in a shop or on public transport.
You state there there is a very much minimal chance of you having (and therefore passing on) covid when you went to your gig. I completely agree with you. Between you not having symptoms and testing negative on lateral flows, I think it’s a completely valid conclusion that you are highly unlikely to have covid at that point in time.
Now, I’m getting the train in to town after work tonight to have a few drinks with a friend and watch the champions league in the pub. I, like you, feel fit and well, and I, like you, have tested negative on lateral flow tests both earlier today and on two other occasions this week.
Why the hell should I wear a mask on the train tonight?
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Not all PC doctors, just ones who choose to preach on twitter about saving lives and then use their skills in a field where lives are explicitly not saved. It’s bizarre.