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2 hours ago, Bennykill said:
Blur.
Just me who really wants to read that now?
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It will be as Radio 1 friendly as possible so it'll be some rubbish like Enter Shikari.
The Earache Stage will provide the real metal.
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1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said:
Nirvana?
Perhaps. But I don't really remember them though from the time as was too young, but I caught the tail end of their impact and all the post grunge stuff of the mid 90s onwards.
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Without wanting turn this thread into Blur v Oasis, the only act I can think who were bigger or as big as Oasis in the nineties would be the Spice Girls.
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3 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:
Fair enough. I'd argue that sort of stuff has always been in the charts, from Carole King onwards. On the other hand Oasis's influence has done more than anything to turn rock music into a reactionary parody of itself.
Agreed, their music does nothing for me and is the reason we have had all these "lad bands" in the last decade. But at least they had a bit of attitude and roughness to them. Music is too dominated by and for the middle classes now, Sheeran and Coldplay etc. Bland and inoffensive, nothing that offends Daily Mail readers.
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4 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:
Possibly inludes streams, but this is talking about sales - although a lot of those so be digital.
It seems they're only including sales on that, so fair enough. Although I wouldn't say Adele captured the zeitgeist of the time like Oasis did. That said, I do make her success responsible for all the MOR guff polluting the charts and radio these days.
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30 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:
Adele's sold more records and Robbie Williams played to more people at Knebworth.
It's hard to gauge record sales these days since they include streaming as part of it. How many actual records has Sheeran sold for example?
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Don't like them, but they were probably the closest thing to we've had Beatlemania. I was a kid when they first came out, so maybe I'm not old enough to fully remember, but they were a phenomena and there hasn't been anything like them since. They're also synonymous with 90s British culture, lad culture, Euro 96 etc. When you think Britain in the 90s you think Oasis.
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4 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:
So why have they booked Foos this year then? Green Day would definitely an option next year, if they're available. Could be a bit soon for RHCP to return, but it wouldn't be the shortest turnaround for a headliner at R&L and they're definitely not off the cards forever.
FR are interested in booking acts that will sell. It's not their fault that there's hardly any big rock acts emerging nowadays. R&L isn't a festival that constricts itself by booking 3 heritage headliners every year. They've always booked zeitgeist acts - Post Malone this year for example. There's definitely an increase in hip hop headliners because that's what's popular just now. They're interested in appealing to their (predominantly) 16-21 y/o clientele, not 'pop and rap crowds' instead of rock fans.
I think they've nailed the headliners this year, considering the acts that are available/appeal to the R&L crowd.
Foos are still relevant and a big name, recently headlined Glastonbury etc. Green Day don't still have that to fall back on really. When was the last big Green Day song you heard/saw the music video for? It's Jesus of Suburbia for me and that was from 2005. The only Green Day songs you see on the music channels these days are Basket Case and American Idiot. With acts like Green Day and Foos you're relying on day tickets. How many Green Day fans will want to buy a day ticket when they can just go to their own show?
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30 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:
Green Day? Arctic Monkeys? The Killers? Red Hot Chili Peppers? Blink-182? There’s loads of options. There’ll almost certainly be at least one established rock headliner, there always is.
You forgot Fall Out Boy. Nah just kidding. I'd be surprised if they booked Green Day or RHCP anytime soon. The GCSE crowd won't have grown up with them when they were popular and they'd probably be irrelevant to them now. I only really see AM from those options, but it's slim pickings really. FR seem to be more interested in drawing pop and rap crowds rather than rock fans, so expect more of those two genres headlining in future.
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4 minutes ago, Steve1000 said:
That doesn’t prove shit. Obviously the day with the biggest headliner by a mile will sell out first.
Nah it proves people want to see the Foos still. But they can't rely on them next year again and I struggle to see what rock headliner they'd book instead. Hence why I think they'll focus on rap and pop.
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2 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:
Aye the run of Foos > ADTR > Frank Carter > The Distillers this year has Radio 1's Big Weekend/Wireless written all over it.
And that's the only day that's sold out! Rock = ticket sales.
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5 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said:
Not very realistic tho.
Hope not, but you never know. Reading is basically Radio 1 Big Weekend meets Wireless these days.
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34 minutes ago, dum surfer said:
I fucking hope not, absolutely dire lineup apart from Travis
Hence why it's on the "realistic" prediction thread. This isn't the dream line up thread!
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1 hour ago, Properbigfan said:
I pray to god that imagine dragons never set foot in r&l again
I never realised they were the ones who did that "you're a natural" song. No wonder everyone hates them on here ha.
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Stormzy
Courteeners
Dua Lipa/Travis Scott (co-headliners)
Cardi B
Imagine Dragons
Catfish
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On 3/21/2019 at 8:46 AM, C14S said:
Went and saw Cleopatrick last night - they fuckin better be there in 2020, absolutely banged it last night and would honestly be a fantastic booking
Read that as Cleopatra for a second then.
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1 hour ago, Xeph1995 said:
The Festival Pot this year really isn't too great is it.
If every festival wasn't dominated by either Radio 1 rock-lite, or electronic, rap and pop, it wouldn't look so bad. Only Download and Glastonbury seem to do their own thing now. It looks like rock festivals are becoming a niche now. Thank God for NOS Alive and Mad Cool, but expecting them to go downhill soon too.
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The thing with The Killers is it's just a dull booking. They play festivals every year, so if you badly to see them you easily could. Plus the fact that they played last year as well, it just smacks of a last minute cheap option or a reactionary booking to how that went.
I don't think "good" bookings are based on musical preference. I find The Killers boring. I liked them when I was 15/16 when they first came out, but went off them pretty quickly, but I enjoyed the secret set performance for nostalgia. I wouldn't go out of my way to watch them though. I don't like Fleetwood Mac or Lady Gaga, but I'd say they would be great headliners, due to the rarity and the fact they'd draw a huge crowd.
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Well at least I'd get a good night sleep if it's Florence. Just hoping something less MOR on the Sagres instead. I'd love some punk, Rancid or something.
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Well at least it's not as bad as Lollapalooza!
*awaits everyone saying this is better*
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I said earlier in the thread I am happy with who's there at the moment and certainly is value for money compared to the UK, but I will be annoyed if they've spent ages holding back names and they turn out to be nothing spectacular.
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1 minute ago, jparx said:
The longer it goes on, the more likely "meh" will be the reaction. I think each week that passes, the calibre of act that fans would find worth the wait jumps up a few notches. We're currently at Chilli Peppers level, but soon we'll be approaching the Stones and AC/DC territory.
As long as it isn't Florence or The 1975 zzzzz. But I suspect it will be. I'd be down for Neil Young or even Fleetwood Mac if they're still around Europe by then.
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Unless they're reincarnating Jimi Hendrix, you can't help but feel it will end being a huge anticlimax and a "meh" booking.
Oasis - were they the biggest band in the UK since the Beatles?
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Ha, sounds like my school life. I used to get laughed at and mocked for liking rock music and guitars, yet those same people were really into Oasis and had all the albums.