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1 hour ago, oochie said:
This is sort of where I'm at now. Like everyone says it's completely missing the obvious 2nd from top acts for Woods/Garden/Big Top. To my eye, it's missing one Garden headliner too, and one late night Big Top.
Whoever it is, I think those additions would represent "value for money", even if the headliners/additions aren't my cup of tea. I'm a bit confused as to why some haven't been added now, but maybe it's various logistical reasons. Fingers crossed because I think it everyone's disappointment will be justified otherwise.
I don’t think one person will love everyone but I think there should be a few that tick the box.
It’s missing that classic act at 8pm on Sunday in Big Top too.
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I don’t think we can fault the undercard.
It’s just the middle tier of acts. I thought The Walkmen were ideal - it makes sense that they may have been omitted until the Koko dates sell out but surely just wait for that to happen then announce EOTR. This is why I don’t think they will play now.
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25 minutes ago, GlitterTea said:
I was initially disappointed but thought I'll no doubt find some gems on the playlist (great that EOTR make and share a playlist at this stage, love that ) but I'm totally uninspired so far. I can't really see what's justifying the ticket price at this stage.I'm sure I'm just being grumpy cos I had my stupid heart set on the Walkmen.
Anyone found anything new they are into on the lineup yet?
I don’t think we can pass judgement until full lineup out
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5 minutes ago, domjon said:
Yup. I'm still excited for it cos there looks to be some great undiscovered stuff but would be nice to get some more top tier second liners...only Angel fits that bracket at the moment and if you look at past line ups there's been at least 3 or 4 every other year.
If they don't materialise they should expect some criticism. Headliners are very uninspiring but that's often been the case and hasn't really mattered...think it will this year unless there's at least a couple more crowdpleasing names to come.
Headliners won’t please everyone but you would expect to see more established acts (The Walkmen, Julia Jacklin, Osees spring to mind).
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It’s defo missing a top tier second line - Perfume Genius, Kurt Vile, Kevin Morby all played last year
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Been on an EOTR discovery buzz all day and discovered some really good things lower down on bill.
I still think there is a lot to add for top half - seems to be missing at least of couple of Kurt Vile / Perfume Genius type acts.
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There’s defo a gap of established acts to play as sub headliners on Woods / Garden plus one Garden headliner missing.
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Just now, HastingsBoy said:
As have some of the headliners booked. I don't see that as a reason not to book them again.
You know you can’t just pick bands and ask them to play ? What if they aren’t touring ?
You have a pick if one’s on tour so it’s viable for all parties especially pre Covid.
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5 minutes ago, Guy Incognito said:
Yeah it's missing stuff like Perfume Genius, Cate Le Bon, Deerhunter etc from recent line ups.
Someone more knowledgeable than me will know what sort of acts we get in second wave
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13 minutes ago, SweepingTheNation said:
It is too much to ask for if they're an American band who don't want to come over right there and then (Big Thief will have been on the road for eighteen months by the time their summer US tour ends) or are choosing to sit the summer out. EOTR isn't in a position to ask acts to jump and get a "how high?" automatic response.
Plus the other acts might be just see for someone else. Wilco would have been my number one choice.
I still think it’s missing a decent middle line of Woods pre headline acts and one more Garden.
It’s also the first announcement with 35-40 acts to add. That’s loads.
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Just now, The Nal said:
Its 4 days aswell remember. Less than 60 quid a day. Great value for money. Ill probably end up seeing about 25-30 acts.
And that all adds up.
Seeing a few band a day that costs between £10-15 is great value.
They also make the site look great and still allow you to take booze in.
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6 minutes ago, Jeel said:
Whether you like the bands or not it very much isn't a £235 festival lineup. Very far from it in fact
In what regard ?
Wilco would cost between £50-60 to see and similar for other headline acts.
There will be loads of costs for a festival. I believe that will generate around 2.7 million from ticket sales.
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9 minutes ago, The Nal said:
Give me Gizz and Wilco anyday.
What percantage of the lineup is released now do we reckon?
96 bands on poster and 129 played last year
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1 minute ago, WM Hall said:
Last year had a diverse line up that felt coherent - you could draw lines from the top acts to the smallest acts.
Fleet Foxes, Bright Eyes and Pixies were headliners last year. They could be described as dull to some.
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10 minutes ago, WM Hall said:
I think my problem is the line up seems very split between what the festival wants to be and what it has to be.
There's some really good stuff in the undercard - Oren Ambarchi, Bar Italia, Nina Nastasia, Horse Lords, MC Yallah etc - but the undercard just seems disconnected from the rest of the line up.
The headliners are really stale and would have been passe in 2016. 4 blokey rock bands isn't interesting, but it probably sells tickets.
Altogether it doesn't feel like a unified line-up, just randomly chosen acts who aren't joined by any real thread.
How can a festival that puts on 130 acts be connected though ?
It’s surely got to cater for multiple genres and audiences hence a disconnect.
Your point about the headliners stands as it’s too male led but apart from Yeah Yeah Yeahs, I don’t who could have played.
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16 minutes ago, SweepingTheNation said:
I wonder if there's a chance the Walkmen will be added but can't be named before their Koko dates sell out? They've just added a third night on the 31st, all tickets go on sale on Friday and it would be odd if while over they don't play the festival they've done before.
It seems one garden headliner short.
Is the second wave normally bigger bands though?
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2 minutes ago, Enkidu said:
You lack any real point, you're just being a shill lol. How about you tell EOTR to spend more money on booking decent acts than on paying people to defend their shite lineup online? 😂
But I don’t need to do that.
It’s the first announcement for starters and you can a good time regardless of the bands.
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1 minute ago, scatteredscreens said:
In EOTRs defence, something just feels off about next year in terms of line ups. There's no clear winners at all, they all seem to be lacking some flavour so to speak.
The only ones I've seen that I thought were good at the small genres they were going for were Wide Awake and Field Day, but they're day festivals so more easy to curate. Still even those were nothing mind blowing or stacked.
A four day festival is never going to be perfect for anyone. People will always complain about something as it’s impossible to please everyone. The headliners are different genres for starters - I don’t like Future Islands so will go elsewhere and catch something different.
EOTR is still a small boutique festival and still attracts loads of amazing acts. The only strange thing is that there isn’t a female fronted act on Woods.
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1 minute ago, Enkidu said:
Perhaps based on previous lineups people had higher expectations for the festival and so wanted to get a cheaper early bird ticket. Easy to say "don't go" but there's still the issue of having to sell the ticket.
Honestly mate you're sounding like a right idiot
And you have perfectly proved my point.
Insulting some one because they disagree with people being rude about a festival lineup.
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1 minute ago, shoebox said:
And that is fine. It's a closed community and a discussion.
The issue Nick is really referring to is the posters on EOTR's social's directly telling them that their product is "shit". You wouldn't (you would hope!) do it to an artist if their work isn't to your taste, so why do it here? What does it achieve? Are they expecting EOTR to go "hang on, you're right. We'll change it"?
This is exactly it.
You can be disappointed but nothing is going to change.
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Just now, wolfamongwolves said:
Because they can and they want to
also they can be negative about something
But it’s their choice. They have control over their decision.
Don’t like the lineup then don’t go.
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Just now, xxialac said:
Is there not some hypocrisy at play here?
You're trying to tell us that you've never directly complained about something or written a negative remark online about something?
Pull the other one...
I didn’t say that.
It’s a festival and a first world problem.
If you aren’t confident that the line up will be to your taste then you are better waiting?
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1 minute ago, Enkidu said:
If I pay £200+ for something and it's shit, think I have a right to complain.
If someone goes to a restaurant and complains their food isn't cooked, would you tell them "You don't have to eat it! I'd like to see you try to make a better dish!" ?You know you don’t have to go?
Also, why buy a ticket blind ?
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1 minute ago, SweepingTheNation said:
I think the point being made is Green Man sold out within something like five hours while EOTR, which is about 10k smaller capacity, still has (albeit onto the last tier) tickets available. It's going to sell out, but it hasn't yet.
Don’t they have some backing / funding from the welsh government too ?
A bigger capacity means a bigger budget. Most years, the line up split is the same when you compare.
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Can’t see that as FI are the band that mo one wants to see