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Nope the announcement was made by Rob Light see news here: http://www.egigs.co.uk/index.php?a=12426 he's the managing partner at managing partner at Creative Artists Agency who own CAA Sports along with AEG - remember the Beckham deal it's the same partnership.
My bet would be AC/DC will be playing Bloodstock next year
that's quite possible then, but these sorts of companies simply can't operate on only an incestuous basis. This is particularly the case for AEG within the UK, as they don't have too much infrastructure wise themselves.
For instance, last year for the Stones (a LN run tour) I fully expected them to play LN-managed (for music) Wembley, yet they ended up playing the AEG-owned Dome o2 Arena. I believe that some sort of tender is put out for the biggest names, where venues get to bid, where the tender might state something like "five shows maximum in or very near to London, for a total audience of 100,000".
It would be a real coup for Bloodstock if they got AC/DC, but even with Galbraith involved and his links to AEG, I'm not sure it has the clout to get an act like this when there's bound to be higher-profile options.
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There's one hole in this CAA are tied to AEG through the sports division CAA Sports - it'll be an AEG run tour
CAA??
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i reckon, if Download is going to get them (and I have no doubts they'll try), they'd be far more likely for 2010 than 2009 - at a stretch, that would just about fit with the end of their claimed 18 months tour from this October.
In the main, bands don't like to play festivals when they've been away for a while or when they have new product to promote - it's cutting their own throats. I can't see why this wouldn't apply to ac/dc.
Add to that that Live Nation are very likely to be handling their tour (they [in their old form] certainly did ac/dc's last UK dates), and LN's touring people won't want potential revenues undermined by a (in comparison) poorly paying festival.
If it was going to be a short tour I'd have more faith in Download getting them, as it gives an opportunity for lots of people to see them in a short amount of time, with it being a long tour, I expect it to be 2010. But I guess ultimately it'll depend on when exactly any UK ac/dc own-shows happen, cos if they're at the beginning of the tour it's less of an issue to return to play a fest.
Then again, it's always possible that a competing fest might grab them - they might even turn up at Reading!
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is dogging allowed?
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Erm..okay,fair enough..it just seems that for a "moderator" some of of your respones have appeared far from moderate..(..you've even managed to include the words "Bullshit" & "Shit" in your reply! and my post included smileys and winks!!)
Don't get me wrong,I'm not agreeing with all of the criticisms that have been levelled at the festival in earlier posts..as I pointed out in my post,we had a great time
.. but to have a pop at folk for leaving early,for what ever reason they saw fit (..and then at one point to seemingly blame their young kid),seems a little bizarre for a "moderator" that's all(..Member No:1 or otherwise).. Anyway,that'll do for me on this topic..
I didn't have a pop at them for leaving early, I had a pop at them for saying they left early "because the festival was shit" (or whatever it was they exactly said). There was more than enough going on to keep anyone well entertained if they wanted to be well entertained, so if they could find nothing to keep them at the festival I suggested it said more about them than the festival.
"moderate" means something around the middle; with those posts being so very extreme from the experiences of the vast majority of attendees then further extreme responses are required to give a moderate view overall.
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And can I just ask..in a totally unconfrontational way..
...Why is it, that when ever anyone comments on the festival in way,other than with glowing praise...mr/ms eFests jumps straight in and all but dismissess their views/experiences?
(..and please mr/ms eFests,don't comeback by quoting the "..piles of s**t" were really "puddles of p**s " argument again..you've done that one to death!
)people are allowed their opinions, but when their opinions are patently bullshit (as has been the case with some posts in this thread) then why shouldn't those things be pointed out?
It's one thing to say that there were problems with the toilets as there were in 2007, but another entirely to state without knowing (and which I happen to know) that those problems were because the festival organiser doesn't give a shit about his customers and was aiming purely to make as much money as possible from them thru providing poor facilities.
It doesn't take much thought to realise that if profit was the motivation that there wouldn't have been proper flushing loos with sinks and water in the first place (even if the water for the sinks didn't last long); standard portaloos would be FAR cheaper if profit was everything.
And a little research would have shown that GuilFest were fully upfront about the problems - admitting they f**ked up big time (there's plenty of news articles where this is categorically stated by the organisers) - and did all they could in the circumstances to try to rectify the problems, but which wasn't possible for a variety of reasons once the event was in full flow.
As for other things (such as comments to more recent posts), then it's not so much a dismissal of their experiences as putting them into a wider festival &/or society context (which I often do for posts about any festival). Yes, (for example) an assault might have happened (I've no idea if it did or not), but the same assault might well have happened to the same person if they'd been shopping in their local town centre - the problem is unfortunately idiots and not the festival itself; all festivals attract idiots to some degree, and GuilFest doesn't have a particular problem with this (and far less than some other festivals). Surely it's fair to GuilFest for this to be pointed out, so that an unchallenged comment isn't the only thing a person considering attending GuilFest (or any other fest where similar comments are made) is all that person sees?
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oh wicked, how exciting.
Can you tell me today please, because it's my birthday?
he can't, but we can, very very shortly.
I've got to say I think they're a fantastic addition, and I don't much care about the one that's got lost, even if others do.
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They haven't been impressed with the toilets in previous years, and said there was a lack of water.
that certainly can't have been the case this year as it had the best toilets (all with running water) yet seen at a festival anywhere near this size ... unless their expectations was to have toilets just like their toilets at home.
And to top it all off on Sunday there was a man who assualted someone.while that's of course unfortunate, I would think that there's barely any festival going that doesn't have an assault of some kind. Unfortunately, these sorts of idiots exist everywhere the world, and the idiots who might act that way don't wear t-shirts saying "I'm an idiot - don't let me in".
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If this is the official forum shouldn't it have a link fromthe tartan heart website.
yes it should, and having a link to hear was a part of the agreement for it being here. I'll give someone a poke.
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My brother's 50th birthday do, after a lot of dithering by him has now been set for the weekend of 8-10 August, so (infuriatingly!) because of this it's Endorse It In Dorset we miss.
I've very reluctantly promised to sell our EiiD tix to an Urban75 friend now ... had to! The cash will come in handy I spose.
excellent William - your absence has now guaranteed sun for EiiD.
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Guilfest is definately attracting more and more idiots, mostly 20 year old 'men', all bent on drinking themselves to death, jumping on tents and stealing stuff.
I can't say that there seemed any more of this this year than there's been previously. In fact, I'd say there was less this year, without the groups of lads that were attracted by Madness last year.
I noticed the campsite was much quieter than last year(number of campers), so those that said they had had enough, did stay away.the whole festival was significantly quieter this year than last, but that's hardly surprising. Last year GuilFest had two (for GuilFest) very big draws as headliners (Squeeze & Madness), while this year the headliners were not of the same general wide appeal. IMO, the rest of the line-up wasn't as good as last year either (but that's perhaps just me, and anyway I don't think it's really possible to manage to keep things on the same level each and every year for a fest like GuilFest).
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anyone catch any of the comedy? I thought that Susan Murray was superb!
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I was shocked to find that after last year's problems Guilfest had again gone for only flushing loos all with proper sinks. And I was pleased to see that this year everything worked perfectly, with them all kept clean and emptied. That toilet crew worked their socks off!
Having just had a chat with someone at Guilfest, they're aware that they could still do with a few more uninals (ewven tho any queuing was minimal), which I guess will be addressed next year.
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the event's press officer has issued the following .... it seems more than a little different to the comments I've read here and elsewhere.....
Press Release7th July 2008
Inaugural
Zoothousand
& Eight
Festival Round-Up
"This crowd is the loudest for a long time… I’m only going to play
zoos from now on - tell my tour manager".
Mark Ronson - Fri 4th July 08
150 performances, 12,000 people each day, 8 stages, 3 days of revelry, a
few hiccups but overall a new festival declared a ‘qualified’ success…
The organisers of Zoothousand Festival today stated that the festival was a 'qualified' success, whilst also issuing an
official apology to any ticket holders who were inconvenienced as they 'learnt some painful lessons' during their
inaugural event.
A weekend of contrasts saw Zoothousand provide a glimpse into some of the best and worst features of any large
UK festival.
Across the first two days, the sun-soaked revellers enjoyed some extraordinary sets in the beautiful rolling Kent
countryside. Mark Ronson, The Cribs, Lethal Bizzle, Gallows, Ash, Hadouken, The Teenagers, Kid Harpoon and The
Young Knives all gave the crowds seminal performances across the two main stages. The drum & bass arena was
packed and were kept partying all weekend by DJs such as Pendulum, Andy C, Freemasons, Bodyrox, Seb
Fontaine and many many more.
Zoothousand Co-Director Ricardo Monty comments “The sun shone for most of the weekend, people danced and
all of the stages were buzzing. The atmosphere was fantastic at all times throughout the main arena with the crowd
praised by the emergency services for their largely exemplary behaviour.”
The Holloways Zoothousand Revellers Lethal Bizzle
More/…
Problems
However, the inaugural festival - the first event on this scale on the site – also experienced some serious teething
problems; including queues upon arrival, complaints over campsite overcrowding, lack of drinkable water, line-up
and scheduling changes, and some significant dissent from artists regarding payment.
"Our biggest problem was one of miscalculation over cash-flow” accepts Danny Blanche, Zoothousand Festival Co-
Director. “This required us to make pragmatic decision to cancel a few acts. Thankfully, with some vital assistance
from Port Lympne Wildlife Park, we managed to keep the show on the road, with the vast majority of the popular acts
appearing.
“We also had to temporarily shut the Big Top tent on Saturday & entirely because of Health & Safety due to problems
with one of the poles supporting the structure. The obvious knock-on effect of this was that we had to move the acts
into other performance spaces, which did cause some confusion, but there was no choice – safety always has to
come first”.
Danny continues, “We have had feedback that people were unhappy with the length of time they were waiting to get
into the event, and the toilets on the campsite. People turned up much earlier than predicted on Friday causing
delays, and the campsites became busier than expected which caused some infrastructure problems. These are all
areas that we dealt with as best we could as they arose.
“Obviously, none of this was ideal or planned – and not the quality of experience that we had aimed to deliver – and
for that we unreservedly apologise to all those affected by the situation. We want to stress that this was our first
festival and that we have dealt with all problems directly and will continue to do so in preparation for next year”
explains Danny.
“We came into this event with good faith and over the next few days will be dealing with any complaints posted on
the forum or sent to the office, and will respond to each on a case by case basis”, explains Matt Dice, Co-Director of
Zoothousand, who continues...
"The three Directors of Wildlife Events would like to officially thank the senior management team at Port Lympne
Wildlife Park; the police; St John’s ambulance; security, and health & safety for helping with the event. As well as all
the production and back-stage staff that pulled together to make Z008 happen.
“Three other festivals went under this very weekend- we’re operating in seriously tough market conditions but we’ll
rectify everything from this year and definitely be back for Z009”.
Danny Blanche, Ricardo Monty, Matt Dice
Co-Directors, Wildlife Events / Zoothousand & Eight
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here at eFestivals we've been getting a lot of comments from people that were there, as well as info from various music biz people.
One reason for the "pathetic" security could be that many of them were protecting the promoter (until he was removed from the site) from irate managers; we've heard that this was happening.
It seems that most of the acts actually turned up, but that most had been told by their booking agents not to play unless they were paid. We've heard one report of one major-ish act that was so pissed off with it all by ther time that he got his fee that he took the money and ran - but we've not been able to verify this story (so the act won't be named).
VIP areas are always totally crap, and not worth the extra - this is why eFestivals *NEVER* includes info on VIP stuff.
While this festival had some potential, it seems that the main issue was down to the inexperience of the promoter. Due to the bad press it's now had, then I can't see anyone wanting to take it on for next year.
The one thing eFestivals hasn't had good info on was the number of people there - does anyone want to take a guess??
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Shangri-La
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to add to the real ale running out debate,certainly when i worked in a pub all real ales had to stand for at least 24hrs to allow the yeast to settle
where as the normal 'piss' has no problem, getting enough space to let all the real ale settle for the next 24hrs (+ a lot more, just in case) would be, i'm guessing, hard
This is the excuse I was hinting at.
At festivals they don't get 24 hours.
Yes, it's a pain for the bar, but one they can find a method for if they want to - after all, they'd certainly find a way to sort it if their sponsor's piss needed time to settle.
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Shangri-La
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Generally it was as ace as Lost Vagueness in it's hey daynah, it was better than that.
LV always looked as tho it was put together and run by people who couldn't give a shit about any of it .... other than reaping the huge profits they got from their seriously over-priced chargable bits.
Shangri-La looked as tho it had been put together by people who cared about what they were doing, and who wanted those who experienced it to go away feeling that they'd been somewhere worthwhile.
The difference was there to be seen and experienced.
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Shangri-La
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We really wanted to go to Shangri La after hours but heard about the crowding and decided not to. We got caught up in the LV crowding the year before which was a nightmare. I understand Shangri La can't be made bigger but other all night venues should be put on to even the crowds out.We went in the daytime and visited The Pub which was lovely although it took me ages to get served, I was ignored by the bar staff and other people were served before me
really, you should have gone - yes, there was a brief bit of crowding on the path, but it's far from dangerous crowding and nothing so scarey it should be avoided.
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Shangri-La
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Deluxe Diner or Juke Joint Bar (had both names displayed outside).actually, it's called "Rocket Ray's Deluxe Diner".
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Shangri-La
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You know you're right, I wish they would have more variety too. All I can do is bring it up (till I'm blue in the face) and hope for the best.thanks - giving them hassle about it from the outside has no effect, so hopefully you being on the inside might make the difference.
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Shangri-La
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I agree with you wholeheartedly Neil. We did try to make it as different as we could up there and it really was up to a small group of about 5 of us as to what we'd sell where, this is why there were cocktails in Shackney (we eveen sent staff on cocktail training just for that bar)But at the end of the day we could only pick from items from the stock list and guess what? No list of ales & ciders. We did take a trip off site to get some supplies but decided we could possible bring back all we needed (even in a land rover) So we decided to concentrate on fruits and rums (all of which still ran out)
I'll do my best to kick up a fuss and bring it up with WBC. This is the reason I've put this thread on. I was hoping for negative feedback so I have something to back up my personal qualms.
As for pissing off the sponsors you needn't worry there, we told ALL barstaff they were not to wear there WBC 'Carlsberg/Glastonbury T-Shirts as we didn't want to advertise either in Shangri-La. I think Trash City had the same idea.
Thanks for the answer but I wasn't actually specifically referring to just the bars in Shangri-La, but to all of the bars - as you're saying you're going to feed stuff back to wbc, then their ale policy for all the bars wants addressing so they always have ale at all bars just as they always have the piss at all bars.
After all, if they can keep them properly stocked with the sponsors piss then they are just as able to keep them stocked with ale.
I know they will give a 'reason' for why this happens, but it's not a reason - it's an excuse, the supposed reason is bullshit. They would not allow themselves to ever run out of the piss, so if they put the same efforts into ensuring the bars always had ale then the bars would always have ale.
AC/DC World tour
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I think it's pretty much impossible to say at the moment.
Last time they hit the UK, I think they played Hammy Odeon Apollo and the MK Bowl. I really wouldn't be surprised to see them insisting on playing the Apollo again as they'd have fond memories of it from its Odeon days, but outside of that I think it gets harder to guess.