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  1. 8 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

     

    I agree they need to apapt to survive but what levels of rainfall etc do they need to plan for?

    In May the monthly average is around 67mm with 8 days rain in the month. From data I can find the previous record was around 35mm in a day. That will now be something like 73mm - but data only comes from weather stations so not exact when rainfall is localised.

    Given the previous stats would anyone have planned for over twice the record rainfall and if so does that mean that for future they have to plan for 150mm in a day - cos at that level the whole thing will be cancelled.

    It is an impossible situation with no right answer IMHO and 10 miles away on Sunday there was a storm that dropped 15mm in around 30 minutes. I hate to think what would have happened if that had hit the site.

    Yes it's an outlier this year alright, but add that to the scatter graph and redraw the line of average / increase over time through it and it'll now look a little higher which is now where they have to plan for. I assume BT already have a plan B for a full cancellation as well.

  2. 41 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

    Just before Dinosaur Jr started, I looked behind me and there was an absolutely biblical slab of grey just floating, looking like it would lay waste to us all. The band must’ve had a magnificent view! The lightest of showers started . . . And then it just sort of drifted off and didn’t do what it looked all set to do. It was monolithic, kind of beautiful! 

    Yeah I remember looking at that and it just floated over with it suddenly becoming cold. The sun had lost its influence a bit by then so it didn't drop and instead produced a nice double rainbow as the sun set.

  3. I'm sure people did their best and no one wants to see the festival move or even end, but it's got to be held in a way that's safe and practical as it is still a business at the end of the day and it has customers who expect not to have to battle or even damage their vehicles getting in or out or compromise their own safety. If the estate wants their regular fee for the ground each year to continue to roll in I'm sure they'll come to a compromise. Records are gonna be smashed every year now for the rest of our lives - that's baked in - so events will need to adapt accordingly to survive.

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  4. Just now, Nobody Interesting said:

     

    Not on all areas he doesn't but as he is the land owner that is his choice. The Catton Hall landowner chooses differently.

    Then they need to be frank with the land management and come to an agreement what can be done and where for next time because there will be one.

  5. The estate owner may not like straw / chippings / track whatever going down on the land but that's got to be better than having it carved up the way it is now with huge troughs across it which will presumably mean it will have to be rolled flat again or something later. I don't think they need to plan for snow or something that grossly improbable (we don't even get that in winter in England anymore these days), but they will surely need a better plan for locked in high rainfall over a short period of time during or just before the festival now in the future because that now is the future whether we choose to realise it or not. I assume it would form part of a safety contingency plan really which would also contain plans for an evacuation should the river go 2 foot higher next time! Surely the entertainments / site license requirements would stipulate this?

    That said, the drainage did indeed cope well despite the ponds and mud given the biblical rainfall experienced - seen worse at Glasto and Beautiful Days years ago.

  6. There's a delay of 24h on river levels which I pointed out on Wed when it was high enough then and said it's likely gonna get higher plus the catchment is quite substantial locally for the river. It survived because the route is artificial and landscaped when the estate was built so the 'levvies' (is that the right term) are quite high.

  7. 30 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

    They’ll be better informed in terms of logistics the next time that site gets a dollop of weather - it’s used for Bloodstock in August too, so it’s all useful research. The last really wet BT was 2014 apparently, so there’s been a fair few layout and logistical changes since then, but now they’ll know where might need shitloads of straw laying down, metal pathways, all that jazz. As ever it’s a work in progress. It was specifically tricky circumstances with that much weather on that day in particular. 

    Bloodstock and a cider festival and some sort of fireworks gig as well I think, plus presumably other more local events, shooting parties whatever.

    Yeah 2014 was epic muddy too. Site coped better than that I reckon this year considering the rainfall level. As a business they do need to absorb costs like chipping and track etc when they need them and make hay so to speak when it's dry and they don't need them.

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