The Orgazoid

Crime can happen anywhere, I would imagine your chances of being the victim of one of the crimes you mention in a pre-erected campsite at Glastonbury are far far lower, than just being out and about from your house and doing just about anything. In a pre-erected campsite you're surrounded by like minded people who have paid an awful lot of money to be there. Yes people could break in, but if they wanted to rob or assault someone there are far far easier ways to do it than making their way to Glastonbury and trying evade various security measures, if they're breaking it its to get into the festival.

Thanks, good to know that as we'll be arriving late wed/early thursday this year, instead of midday tuesday like last year, well probably be in E25 compared to the middle of E19 last year, but the walk won't really be much longer by virtue of the fact you can walk straight down towards the hill from there.

We have a quiet ticket, but due to work commitments for a couple of our party, we may not be able to arrive until later on Wednesday, or even very worst case scenario, very early on Thursday morning. What is the deal in this situation? Do the quiet fields actually fill up, and you end up in the next normal CV east field?

Thats not really quite the same though is it, that would apply to at most, 5k tickets, and the need to have to do that is obvious, the point of local tickets is in the name, if they aren't going to locals then Glasto absolutely have a responsibility to stp and and take the necessary steps to make sure local tickets go to actual locals. The point of local tickets is to appease them, if they're going to non locals then the outcome for what glastonbury are trying to achieve with them would be the exact opposite and defeat their entire purpose. But its a different kettle of fish entirely if you're talking about sifting through what would be 2/3/4+ MILLION ballot applications looking for duplicates and asking for proof of address and identity, especially when the problem you are trying to solve by introducing a ballot is a not actually your problem at all (unlike local tickets going to non locals) its a problem with the end user being lazy.

Sure, sure you have.

Glastonbury on sea is new, Silver hayes has improved a lot and the Levels is great. Williams green has gone and replaced with a load of cars, the other stage has a second set of speakers and has had several, bigger stages since. Not a huge aount has really changed in the SE corner, Genosys is hopefully back after going moldy, london underground has gone, IICON is new and great, but things like NYC downlow and Unfairground still remain. There is an onsite co-op (no booze) the greenpeace area has developed as has a great rave tree stage. The beat hotel is now san remo (basically the same) it seems a lot busier and more crowded.

It was very much not bollocks. in laymans terms it was possible to point your browser direct to the server selling tickets, and do this multiple times, almost as many times as you wanted to if you knew how. it was probably around for a while, but seeped into the mainstream in November via Tik Tok instagram etc, so was widely used. I know of people who got upwards of 80 tickets. I didn't use the hack as I also dismissed it as bollocks at the time, but I unknowingly ended up getting my ticket through a mate who used it and got tickets for 5 groups using it. The end result was if you didn't know the hack, you were fishing from a much smaller pool of tickets than usual, and even though the sale went on for an hour, your chances of getting through during that hour were greatly diminshed.

The problem you're highlighting isn't the problem with a ballot, someone using a different persons ticket would be as much or as little an issue as it currently is. Think about it, think about the current system. you give your name, address and photo, but do Glastonbury verify this in any way, do they do a voters roll check to confirm its actually your address? or Ask for a passport to confirm your name? No of course they don't. Your name is whatever you tell them, your picture is whatever picture you give them and your address is where you want your tickets delivered. Your picture serves to deter touts and selling tickets on, its checked at the gate only, if it looks like you then you get in. Now think about a ballot, you can enter multiple separate registrations with a different picture and a different address, which could be any number of friends or family members that you could collect tickets from. You coudl even vary your name slightly with each registration, but you probably wouldn't need to bother. Unless Glastonbury specifically have a fraud team to sift through every single registration and try and spot duplicates, or invest in expensive AI software to spot duplicates, then a ballot would be subject to the exact same methods that people use to gain an advantage in the current sale, i.e large groups etc. But why on earth would they need the extra cost and administration headache? They just need to sell tickets for their festival which the current system does very well, and very efficiently in a way that is already completely fair. Instead, why doesn't the end user look at themselves and ask, what am I doing wrong?

Under a lottery system, how often do you think you would be successful, out of interest? considering there are 2.5m active registrations, and getting tickets now actually involves getting up at a specific time first thing in the morning, rather than just having to enter your details at some point, in the space of probably at least a month or more. And the above question assumes a completely fair lottery system, so 1 person 1 entry. in reality Glastonbury dont verify your identity at the moment, the picture is just to identify you at the gate, so assuming they continue to just ask for your name and address, a lottery system would probably be even more exploitable than the current system anyway.

It's great to be positive, but the hospitality tickets go to people in the industry. If someone has access to them and doesn't want to use it themselves, they will have a queue of friends and family who will take it off their hands (i.e. people they like and know). if it is getting to the stage they are happy to offload them to some random on the internet, then it will be for a huge profit, like £5k+ upwards. If you can somehow gain access to hospitality tickets, it wont be for face value, unless you can befriend someone who has access to them to the point they like you enough to sell it to you for face value, and they dont want it themselves.

The only system that everyone would universally perceive as fair is one where everyone gets tickets, but of course that isnt possible so you'll always get people complaining its unfair, ballot or otherwise. People always want whatever system isn't the one that failed them, the balot thing is almost like less privileged people voting for brexit, a misguided belief that anything must be better than what you currently have. I get the argument the current system favours big groups, but in reality the only people that are really and truly disadvantaged by it are people with literally no friends or family. I appreciate that those people do exist, but in reality its relatively rare, for everyone else they have the ability to rope in friends and family, if they don't then its on them.

That is just a ballot, so by extension a hideous idea (at least for anyone who wants to go more than once very 5/6/7 years or so) Get randomly allocated place 237,314 in the queue and then have absolutely zero control of your ticket buying ability from that point onwards, shut your laptop down and repeat the process a year later.