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11 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said:
When I say weak I do just mean to my own tastes and vibe at the minute. I've also been fortunate enough to see a lot of acts on the line up which others might not have seen. There's also an element of hope in there that I'll catch the likes of Swans and Death Grips at their own shows for significantly cheaper.
I have an EOTR ticket on early bird. I'll be interested to see who tops the bill for that but there's always loads of up and coming stuff which eventually ends up on the Primavera line up the next year. Especially if they're an up and coming UK based act (black midi, squid, bcnr all get their early footings thanks to EOTR/Green Man)
The weak remark wasn't directed at you, but at me. For me, Depeche Mode headlining a festival in 2023 is weak, but someone on here will straight-up call to my house and break my windows for that. 😂
There's a clutch of acts I'd have paid for this summer at any festival, really. But few of them are turning up anywhere just yet. And lots of them are acts that are on the circuit regularly too, I've just missed them, or not seen them for a few years.
Its no harm. I'm hoping to be in a position to try out lots of one day festivals too next year. I'm UK-based presently, so I should have options!
And anyway, I'd have to chuck all plans in the bin if Sault announces a tour/residency anyway.
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55 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said:
Reflecting on this line up now some other fests have announced more acts...
It's the best of the bunch. But I do think it's a weak bunch to begin with. The undercard is very good despite missing a few names like Sigur Ros that other fests seemed to have booked. Probably just the timing that didn't work though as they seem to be active in July and not early June.
I'm happy to miss international fests in 2023 and look at going away again in 2024 when hopefully there's some more acts that take my fancy.
This is where I am at present. I've gone from hanging back on PS for cost matters, then deciding I didn't want to go when I saw the bill, then changing my mind, but I've now settled on not for me next year. Come back to me in a week... 😂
But there does seem to be a general weakness across the board in my opinion this year. Maybe weakness isn't fair, but the acts topping the bills everywhere aren't to my taste, and the curation seems really unusual at lots of festivals too. Mega pop stars next to nostalgia acts next to indie names... Its a bit too catch all to justify the price point for me. I'm glad everyone gets to have their fun, but there's nothing wrong with niche or specialist festivals existing too.
I'm gonna see how PS Porto looks next week as its a lot more affordable right now when you factor in the cost of BCN flights and accommodation (thank you, formula 1!), but I'd be surprised if I end up there either.
Anything else out there worth waiting on? Maybe End of the Road, or Best Kept Secret?
None of this is to say that there isn't loads at PS (or mad cool, or I assume Glasto...) that wouldn't be good; but it's just not worth the cost for me at this stage.
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1 hour ago, Drums Please Fab said:
Seen them in Dublin around that time. Boys and Girls opener. Pints everywhere in the sky.
Ah sure that's just standard Dublin. 😜
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52 minutes ago, BenjoDiMeo said:
For what's it's worth, their 2013 Primavera headliner set was legendary. Boys and Girls opener ffs
They were excellent on that tour. I saw them twice in the UK. Both absolutely great shows and I wouldn't count myself as a particularly big fan generally.
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7 hours ago, Enkidu said:
I'm really hoping they remove that bullshit with the bridge to BITS being for VIPs only.
This was a total pain in the ass. From my recollection, though, wasn't it part of the planning arrangement with the local council? Someone else in here may have a better memory than me in this case, but I remember the whole BITS area, bridge included, all being the subject of a messy planning dispute based on crowd size, timing and access.
The whole site actually spans two administrative areas so they've to deal with the BCN and (I think) Sant Adria councils on different aspects of it.
For all of the shit they got wrong last time out, this one may be beyond their control.
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Fred Again just announced as a Saturday headliner for the electric picnic festival in Ireland (Billie Eilish Friday, and Lewis capaldi is also listed for Saturday but they refer to both as headline acts on their socials), so that might be a hint as to where he is being viewed in terms of billing. At least over there. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see doing a main stage mordor slot late at night.
Also, mad cool line up not to my taste at all either. Maybe it'll be a festival free 2023!
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Are we really still debating Halsey as a headliner? Not having heard of an act isn't a sign they're unworthy. Or that you're cool. The festival is changing its approach the last few years-the fact that most of us can look at this bill, hate a headline act and still a dozen names we want to see is very impressive.
And, it may not be the most important metric, but if we really have to keep re litigating it...
- Blur has 8m monthly listens on Spotify
- Kendrick Lamar has 38m
- Halsey has over 40m
The way people consume music has changed. The way people identify with the music they like has changed. That's why popstars headline festivals alongside rock musicians and rappers. Im not suggesting people need to like any or all of them, but man this has been a tiresome few days on this forum if we could maaaybe move on a little.
Also. I'm Not A Woman, I'm A God is a tune. But I won't be going near that set..!
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I'm gonna give this serious consideration this year. I held off buying early birds for Barcelona and I'm glad as the line up isn't to my taste, really.
But still on the hunt for a European festival, so let's see what you've got up your sleeve Porto...
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Just now, pne094 said:
Oh oh. Didnt this cause a ton of complaints this year? People kind of ignore the ''subject to capacity'' thing.
There were issues with the capacity at City gigs last year as they were way over subscribed. People queued hours and missed out etc. They were keen not to do a pre-booking system for free gigs as some people might not show up and therefore people just miss out, but surely the way to do is to have a pre-registration or lottery for gigs and then have the spares available on the door. Surely fewer people would wait outside knowing most of them were gone anyway.
They did the pre-registration for the brunch on the beach, which seemed to piss people off as much as not doing it for the other shows too, though that largely seemed to be a combination of the fact that they had said brunch was included as part of your ticket and then just days before it, said you had to register. The registration period elapsed before a lot of people even saw the email too, hence the rage... I think.
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1 minute ago, pne094 said:
We talked about the 2011 lineup yesterday. Compared to that the 2023 lineup looks like a whole other festival.
Thing is, it is a whole other festival, really isn't it? Capacity is totally different, even some of the organisation is different, with the Live Nation involvement and different backer. Sure the name and the location are the same but a festival that was at approx 35,000 people per day isn't the same as one that is closer to 80,000 per day. It happens to them all, I guess!
7 minutes ago, pne094 said:Shit, now I have to check out an Halsey album... Thanks man!
Keen an open mind etc 🙂
As a disclaimer, I'm not a massive fan, but of all the names on the bill that stick out as odd, Halsey certainly would not be the one that I'd have a problem with.
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I think people are being a little unfair on Halsey, fwiw. The album she put out last year (produced by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross...) was really well received and pretty decent. I mean it's not like they booked Ellie Goulding or something.
3 minutes ago, birchtree29 said:I was not expecting to see Primavera and Capital FM Summerball sharing 2 of their headliners in 3 years
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Those headline acts are a bit of a head scratcher but beyond that, it's not a million miles away from the last few years.
The undercard is strong, even if not totally to my taste.
I'm glad I held back buying a ticket and I don't think that's worth €325 to me, but I can see how it would be for someone else.
Maybe if I lived locally, or had somewhere to crash (or won a ticket...) id still head along, but as it is, 2023 is a no go for me.
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27 minutes ago, kaytee... said:
What day do people try to arrive in Barcelona for the festival? I've only done the two weekends this year so what day to the gigs in the city typically start before the festival?
Land Monday before, leave Monday after. That was the ideal for me, but flights are outrageous now. So, land on the Tuesday before and probably leave on the Sunday, which is pretty bad. But I'm struggling to make it work any other way unless I want to go via Budapest or Oslo or something mad...
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I winder are people reading too much into the 'edm' label, and it could just be some big electronic act?
I live around half the year in the Netherlands and friends of mine use 'edm' to refer just about any type of electronic dance music, not just the stuff that's referred to as edm in uk/us media.
So it could just be, say, the Prodigy.
Harris would be a very surprising booking IMO but this festival is full of surprises...
Anyway, not long to go now.
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They've just posted on Instagram that tomorrow from 7pm (I guess CET), follow Amazon Music ES for "the details of the line up that we will have unveiled earlier"
So whatever the hell that means.
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6 minutes ago, DDave said:
Metallica gigs are for 2024, mate.
Haha so they are! Some serious advance planning there.
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I see Metallica have announced a tour with a two week gap around the time of both Barcelona and Madrid editions....
(this is a joke in case anyone loses their cool! They are in Madrid later in the summer so seems very unlikely in that sense, it's also all arenas, not festivals)
The excitement is building now. I don't have my ticket. I may regret that tomorrow... But let's see how it goes.
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1 hour ago, joselito said:
How realistic could be the return of LCD soundsystem?
Against them, Hot Chip have a date one week later. Despite Al Doyle didn't come to the last South American gigs with them, he is still a member of both bands in his social media, and they didn't share tours since 2010 I think.
Pros, they played last time in 2016 and last year only played in Bilbao, and the two fests share the same booking team or have a good relationship.
And to be more perfect, in fact the band won't do regular tour in a while, they could play residences during the two weeks, maybe 3 gigs in the city Monday to Wednesday and a show in the festival Friday or Saturday.
Yes, I believe it's possible.
I would say they're possible.
One more possible con is that they're heavily rumoured on the Glastonbury forum to be in Ireland (and I think the UK?) in August, so that might suggest a tour later in the summer.
But they're pretty unpredictable when it comes to touring patterns - there's not many acts who do multiple residencies in single cities for instance, so I dunno.
I wonder would they be ticking the same box as blur, pulp and Depeche Mode though? Legacy ish, reunion ish. I'd like them there, but if the lineup was topped with Depeche Mode, blur, pulp, lcd soundsystem and one or two pop acts, its a little low on variety IMO.
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8 minutes ago, Gregorick said:
Okay folks let's spend a week over analysing every frame of this so we can get our hopes up only to be completely surprised when the full line up drop. 😂
Any clues in there? Are the hashtags #illbeyourmirror and #mirroringyou for the festival, or the sponsor? I'd say the festival - as in, Madrid and Barcelona will be mirroring each other.
Other than that, I've got nothing...
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1 hour ago, xxialac said:
m83 are back and touring Europe in June.
Oh wow. If this line up has Kendrick, M83, and Sault, I'm 100% there.
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7 minutes ago, Fabrizzo said:
Sault (on Instagram) hint a tour...
Oh. My. Clear my schedule!
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Fever Ray surely a banker. Small tour of parts of Europe in the spring, a few American shows in May, and then nothing announced for summer or festival season.
Dates below for anyone interested.
Fever Ray:
03-23 Oslo, Norway - Sentrum Scene
03-24 Copenhagen, Denmark - Vega
03-25 Gothenburg, Sweden - GBG Film Studios
03-27 Riga, Latvia - Hanzas Perons
03-28 Tallinn, Estonia - Noblessner Foundry
03-30 Warsaw, Poland - World Wide Warsaw Festival Sat.
04-01 Amsterdam, Netherlands - Melkweg
04-03 Brussels, Belgium - Cirque Royal
04-04 Cologne, Germany - E-Werk
04-06 Luxembourg City, Luxembourg - Den Atelier
04-07 The Hague, Netherlands - Rewire Festival
05-03 New York, NY - Terminal 5
05-05 Boston, MA - Roadrunner
05-07 Chicago, IL - The Salt Shed
05-10 Oakland, CA - Fox Theater-
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Bbk has announced a few new names. Chemical Brothers, Florence + the Machine, and the Blaze the ones that jumped out to me. They'd already announced Arctic Monkeys.
Doesn't necessarily rule out the Chems, for instance, but I'd be downgrading them in my predictions now.
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1 hour ago, jannybruck said:
Osees/Oneohtrix/Ty Segall/A Place To Bury Strangers would be good but I'd be a little disappointed if they were re-booking some of those other artists who were there last year.
I think there's gotta be a chance of some overlap, given they had two varied line ups last year. Not totally different for sure, but plenty of acts on weekend 2 in particular would have made sense for 2023 - Phoenix and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs have released albums since, for instance.
Not that I expect either of those there, just that a lot of acts will be touring hard to make up for lost time during the pandemic, and a lot of delayed albums etc have been released since so there'll be more overlap between the 2022 and 2023 touring calendars than in previous two year cycles, I'd guess.
Anyway, heard the new Young Fathers on 6 Music this morning again. Fingers crossed they are there. Love those guys.
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Does Porto have much recent history of getting its own standalone headliners? Or are we more likely to see something like St Vincent and the War on Drugs bumped up into the top spots, alongside Blur and the Pet Shop Boys?
Do we reckon the Fred Again, Four Tet side of it transfers too? And some decent slots of Pusha T and Loyle Carner too?
I'll be surprised to see Depeche Mode as they announced all their dates together earlier in the year, and I don't think Calvin Harris or Kendrick would be bankers either but I guess I wouldn't have had much luck predicting the Barcelona and Madrid line ups either if I'd been asked to!